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Old May 22, 2005 | 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 350zDCalb
sure you did...that would be top news on "days of out lives" here on the forum...

let's see some pics/details/proof

i'm not saying it couldn't happen, it just seems that anyone on this forum that reads the FI section knows that the topic of an aps tt motor popping is hotter than two rats f$%king in a wool sock
Why would someone go online on a worldwide website and tell a blatant lie about a product. If it is not true, it can be considered slander, since it can have serious business implications for the manufacturer and sellers/installers.

I think we really need to hear directly from APS on this one. Has anyone, to their knowledge had issues with detonation or not? If so, what are the issues? Under what driving conditions has this happened? What kind of fix is in the works? I just really need to know as I on the verge of putting over $20,000 into this project.
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Old May 22, 2005 | 07:53 AM
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I had a feeling NOS was somehow involved...

https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=116034
https://my350z.com/forum/nitrous-oxide/116638-gurus-please-chime-in-doing-zex-install-settings.html

This guy never posts anything regarding turbos, only NA and NOS, so he may be talking about something else.

Anyway, I personally think anyone can blow a motor with any kit if they try hard enough, like missing a shift and bouncing off the rev limiter.

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Old May 22, 2005 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by XBS
I had the APS kit for 4 months and blew my motor, i never posted it though too lazy
Nooooooooooooo! more info please

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Old May 22, 2005 | 12:23 PM
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I've had my APS kit on for 5 months now (Brainstorm's 2nd install) and I have not blown my engine. I have not been lazy and have posted my experiences (all positive) with this kit periodically.

Peter certainly is knowledgeable and a good marketer but it is easy to sell a product that is clearly head and shoulders above the competition. If you do your research on TT kits for the 350Z and are objective in your analysis you will see what I mean.
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Old May 22, 2005 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Speedracer
I think we really need to hear directly from APS on this one. Has anyone, to their knowledge had issues with detonation or not?
Not to my knowledge and I'm sure that the owner will post information if and when a APS twin turbo equipped VQ engine does fail - it's sure to happen at some time as there are so many possible technical issues that can cause an engine failure.


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Old May 22, 2005 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by phunk
Wow... this could get hilarious... I also have my doubts that its true... being that the APS install is pretty much idiot-proof, and I have my own personal beliefs that 450-475rwhp is completely reliable on this engine if the install and tune is correctly done...
Thanks Charles and we at APS aim for apporx 400 WHP as being a very safe power level on 93 octane fuel - I'm positive that higher power is obtainable from the stock engine with the APS twin turbo system (up to 500 WHP) though with the higher WHP comes a higher risk of course .


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I can only analogize that as taking a flame thrower to peter's nuts!

Eh... i dont believe it either tho.
I've got the flame proof underwear on now - I don't need any flame throwing at the moment.

Some guys think that the APS twin turbo system is absolutely invincible against engine failure, this of course is not true and I have a feeling that some guys just want to see an APS twin turbo system fail for the hell of it.

I for one don't want to see this happen as I'd prefer not to see the owner face expensive engine repair bill though the reality is there are many issues that can cause engine failure, it will happen as some time unfortunately.

I can say that I totally believe that APS engineers have done all in their power to minimise the risk of VQ engine failure when used in conjunction with the APS twin turbo system. A thoroughly engineered fuel supply system with a full fuel return and a boost referenced fuel pressure regulator, comprehensive engine management for ignition timing retard, accurately controlled air fuel ratio, and boost pressure mapping, (thoroughly/conservatively developed tuning maps) and very efficient air to air intercooling all provide the very best opportunity for safe engine operation.

As provided out of the box the APS twin turbo system is very safe and powerful - I'm sure as you well know Charles, if guys start modifying the engine, bigger cams, lower comp, ported heads, etc, etc, then custom tuning from an experienced dyno tech will be required to ensure safe and powerful engine operation.

Happy boosting guys.

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Old May 22, 2005 | 03:17 PM
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Peter:

Congratulations on no engine failures to you and all at APS.

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Old May 22, 2005 | 03:57 PM
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No issues here.....of course I've only had it for a week.......still smiling every time I punch it.
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Old May 22, 2005 | 08:15 PM
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I've got the flame proof underwear on now - I don't need any flame throwing at the moment.
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hahahaha...
yah, you aps guys seem to have built a very exceptional product..probably would have saved me a blown motor!
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Old May 23, 2005 | 03:52 AM
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I was luckly enought to be the first owner driver of an APS TT kit installed on this plant, be it only by a couple of weeks. The engine is completely stock and is used as a daily drive, it's been tracked several times in the 7 1/2 months since the turbo's where fitted, there have been no issues except for the stock clutch giving out 4000km ago at the last drag racing event I attended. I don't nurse the car, it's just so addictive when on boost, I been throught one very hot Australian summer with no major over heating problem, I will probally fit a large raditator before the next summer set in just for peace of mind. All I can say is well done APS for a awesome well engineered kit which can be removed at any time to return the car back to stock just in case I wear this car out prematurely through over use and need to buy a new replacement one, then I can refit the APS TT kit back onto the new 350Z, I just love it.

Cheers

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Old May 23, 2005 | 10:51 AM
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Im one of the 1st APS owners as well, don't know what number but mine was put on in January and finished in February. I have had 0 problems with APS. I did go through 1 exhaust system probably because of scraping sometimes on our companys huge speed bumps. There is 1 problem i can't resolve.

My tires just don't seem to last.

All joking aside this is the kit for the 350z that puts it over the top. Its so smooth and manageable. I love it. If the price came down a bit it would be an even better seller. But when you know your kit is good you cash in on it.
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Old May 23, 2005 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by zland
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Congratulations on no engine failures to you and all at APS.

Jeff
Thanks Jeff and it would be cool if we could keep that no blown engine record though I guess the reality of high engine performance is that we will fail an engine at some point in time - wish this was not the case though it's bound to happen.

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Old May 23, 2005 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ZZtopp
No issues here.....of course I've only had it for a week.......still smiling every time I punch it.
Awesome to hear ZZtopp and be sure to keep us updated when you upgrade to the APS true dual exhaust system in the near future - I'm positive you will be really happy with the additional power and engine response.

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Old May 23, 2005 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 350zDCalb

I've got the flame proof underwear on now - I don't need any flame throwing at the moment.
Peter



hahahaha...
yah, you aps guys seem to have built a very exceptional product..probably would have saved me a blown motor!
Maybe and thanks for your kind words on the APS twin turbo system - at least you now have a really nice built engine and plenty of horses to enjoy, hope all goes well with your Z from here on in.

Peter
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Old May 23, 2005 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by XBS
I had the APS kit for 4 months and blew my motor, i never posted it though too lazy

People often make unsubstantiated, inflammatory statements on forums such as these for several reasons. These statements usually arise out of boredom, jealousy, or just plain stupidity. The very content of this worthless post gives a pretty clear picture of what a waste of carbon this human being is.
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Old May 23, 2005 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ZZtopp
People often make unsubstantiated, inflammatory statements on forums such as these for several reasons. These statements usually arise out of boredom, jealousy, or just plain stupidity. The very content of this worthless post gives a pretty clear picture of what a waste of carbon this human being is.

Right on and well said, ZZtopp! You have a way with words...and I fully agree. That guy posting something like that about a blown engine with a product we are putting a lot of interest, time, effort and $$$ into, if untrue, is just plain mean for no good reason.
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Old May 23, 2005 | 08:39 PM
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Considering that XBS has not posted anything more, I think it's safe to assume he either doesn't know what he's talking about, made it up to get attention, or is really lazy to post a followup.
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Old May 23, 2005 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ZZtopp
The very content of this worthless post gives a pretty clear picture of what a waste of carbon this human being is.
wow... thats a little hardcore.
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Old May 23, 2005 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by xswl0931
Considering that XBS has not posted anything more, I think it's safe to assume he either doesn't know what he's talking about, made it up to get attention, or is really lazy to post a followup.
Well....he was too lazy to post after he "blew up"
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Old May 23, 2005 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ZZZ-35
All I can say is well done APS for a awesome well engineered kit which can be removed at any time to return the car back to stock just in case I wear this car out prematurely through over use and need to buy a new replacement one, then I can refit the APS TT kit back onto the new 350Z, I just love it.

Cheers
Thanks for those kind words of Support ZZZ-35 - it's always awesome to hear from a satisfied and happy APS twin turbo customer.

Great to hear that the dead stock VQ engine is performing well also, I hope you wear this engine out over many thousands of enjoyable road miles, must catch up soon for a good day drive.

Thanks

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