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Old May 30, 2005 | 05:44 PM
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Greddy kit is COMPLETELY UNSAFE FOR MORE THAN 5.5 PSI unless you add a fuel system and custom tuning solution. I tested this on my car immediatly after install, and at 6.5 psi my air/fuel was in the mid 14's. This just isnt safe.
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Old May 30, 2005 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Gman2004
Sorry to hear you blew your motor. If you've never built a motor, I would recommend SGP. Using them will take out the guess work. It will be a one stop shop. Not only that they have built several vq's and have the experience.

How many psi were you running? Did you have a pressure sensor harness and timing harness?

I'll give it a few minutes before this thread turns into APS is the best and how Greddy sucks.

Well since noone started it yet, ill be the first.
Once again Greddy blows another motor, man those kits are the VQ35 killer.
I <3 APS.


How was that?
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Old May 30, 2005 | 05:56 PM
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Oh ya and to actually contribute to the thread instead of just spamming like most idiots.
If you really dont know what your doing either
A) Learn
or
B) Go with SGP and dish out a few more dollars.
Oh and if you choose option A, do NOT start posting threads of what to get, search around, read the sticky threads in this section. Cause if you start new threads asking, i will hunt you down and take you to china town!
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Old May 30, 2005 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by phunk
Greddy kit is COMPLETELY UNSAFE FOR MORE THAN 5.5 PSI unless you add a fuel system and custom tuning solution. I tested this on my car immediatly after install, and at 6.5 psi my air/fuel was in the mid 14's. This just isnt safe.
Hey Charles,
Where should the air/fuel be @ 5.5 PSI or for any PSI for that matter? I'm going this week to Dyno & Tune..and I want as much Education as possible before I go....
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Old May 30, 2005 | 06:47 PM
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richc86:

I run stock engine 350zs around 11.3:1 A/F as soon as boost comes on. This is richer then you need, but sacrafices little HP and provides extra combustion chamber cooling to keep combustion more stable. The 350z Ignition System is a BEAST and will have no trouble sparking thru rich off the scale A/Fs at high boost... so dont worry about that.

The most I will go on stock ignition timing is to around 7 psi... but I dont know if I even recommend that. When a timing harness is used I usually pull out around 1 degree per psi starting like 4 psi. It all depends on what exactly im doing tho and how high im taking the boost, fuel octane, and vehicle owners expectations. There is no proper tunability in the E-Manage beyond 6-7psi until you add the MAP sensor also.

I prefer to tune with a return fuel system kit such as my own that uses a 1:1 regulator, because at idle the vacuum will drop fuel pressure allowing you to run less of a injector correction factor (MAF voltage hack) on the oversize injectors and the car will run more accurate ignition timing.
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Old May 30, 2005 | 07:13 PM
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well if it makes you feel better, there is already an APS kit that has blown a motor. It is somewhere on this forum, just too lazy to search.
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Old May 30, 2005 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by cquence 350 [Z]
well if it makes you feel better, there is already an APS kit that has blown a motor. It is somewhere on this forum, just too lazy to search.
I don't think that was documented and confirmed. Just some guy with a one line post saying he did.

Still, it's only a matter of time until someone does blow a motor on an APS TT. No system is invencible, even if it can't go over 12psi.
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Old May 30, 2005 | 08:23 PM
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taurran- cquence was joking- the guy who claimed the blown APS said he was just too lazy to post any info.
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Old May 30, 2005 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by chocoboy81
... or have to play with stupid e-manage??
This says it all... Truly unbelivebale...

Greddy has about 5% culpability here, only to the extent that it did not include a complete EM solution and a safe map for anything over 5.5psi ... but what else is new? I am surprised that it didn't blow ont he very first run.

Good luck with the build, and pleaseee get the thing tuned next time.
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Old May 30, 2005 | 09:15 PM
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choco,
do you happen to idle your z for two hours at a time while listening to the radio?

j/k
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Old May 30, 2005 | 09:19 PM
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Even though he brought this on himself lets not flame the guy.
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Old May 30, 2005 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Z BOY
choco,
do you happen to idle your z for two hours at a time while listening to the radio?

j/k

lmao
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Old May 31, 2005 | 07:56 PM
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choco,

you are in luck. there is a built short block in the classifieds for sale. this would save you a couple of months wait. Here's the thread.

https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=125430
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Old May 31, 2005 | 08:09 PM
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Choco, i see your in vancouver, you drove that copper z with the big wing? WHo did your install? I can recommend someone to work on your z, they did good work on my g35 vortech kit, and have built two forged ati procharger 350z s.
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