I'm in the same boat. I just don't want to be the first to tune their N/A car with this unit so I'm hoping a brave soul will provide experiences who has similar mods (check my sig).

 

i might be one of the first NA people to use it, but I'll probably wait for the timing advance to work if it's coming out in a couple weeks

 

I'll certainly be doing it. I'll even program the second map on race gas just to see what can be done NA. This will be interesting!

 

sharif, i see there is an input for the knock sensor also. is there a setting or parameter for the eu to self adjust timing in relationship to the knock sensor and save the settings? or is it just used to record knock signal? thanks. bye the way, will be ordering one in the morn from ya so hope you still got atleast one. you prolly already got my message.

 

just answered my own question, lol. it is only used for datalogging.

 

i downloaded the manual off another site for the eu. looks like it even has the wiring diagram for the 350Z!!!! finally

 

What site has the manual?

 

Real time timing display, and timing advance functions now READY!!!

see here: https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....58#post1610458


GB pricing has ended...THANKS EVERYONE!!!

 

Still subscribing to thread and hopefully getting some good numbers from NA guys making this purchase worthy..

 

subscribing to see N/A gains as well

 

Guys, it will probably a few weeks before the NA guys get these installed. Most of the NA people elected to pass on the GB, since the timing advance feature was not confirmed.

The device is perfect for tuning, so the results will only be as good as the tuners ability with the NA car...as well as the F/I cars.

Hope that made sense.

 

Sharif, any chance this could be used on a '05 Mustang GT?

 

It has drivers for 8 cylinders. The MAF would be the only issue.....but maybe it woould work. If you can find out what type of MAF it uses, I bet you could find a compatable setting.

 

You could also log the MAF and create your own MAF output map.

 

If you control the actual timing then the maf signal almost doesn't matter. Now(with the blue) if you scale too much it throws off the timing(advanced). Does the EU control actual duty cycle as well?

 

Or eliminate the MAF altogether if cant get it working properly. You can convert to a speed density (MAP based) setup. I never really saw the need for this on the VQ, as our MAF is not physically restrictive, and all fueling and timing control is mapped out via pressure anyways.

 

nis350ztt:

I'm working on an eight channel knock control system for the coil-on-plug Fords.

Unlike Nissan coils, the Ford coils do not have internal ignition transistors. They are inside the EECV processor. The emanage cannot drive the coils directly, unless they have internal igniters.

Also, from what I have seen, the emanage ignition driver chip is a six channel device. From my post #222 on page 12:

http://www.semicon.toshiba.co.jp/td/..._datasheet.pdf

 

The eManage Ultimate can drive up to 8 injectors and coils, but the last 2 are bridged in some fashion. I dont know exactly how this is done, but there is a wiring diagram in the insturction manual for 8 cylinder direcft applications.

 

Two problems with the Ford ignition.

The emanage cannot drive Ford coils. These coils need a ten amp driver for each channel. Greddy upgraded the ignition driver chip, but not that much.

The second problem is that if you attempt to install a timing control with real ignition drivers between the EECV and the coils, the EECV "knows" that it's no longer connected to the coils, and shuts down the ignition system.

Possibly, you could install four MSD dual tach adapters, then the emanage, then two MSD DIS IV boxes.

 

I guess its only compatibly with 8 cylinder Import applications...since it does have a diagram and setup for 8 cylinder.


Thanks for the clarification John...again!