Hello all,

For the last few weeks I was contimplating building the Z to be a NA beast. However, after researching that avenue a little further I've decided I'm going to take the FI route. I would like to do an NA engine but the $$$ compared to HP is far superior for FI.

With that in mind, I'm going to be building the engine not only for higher boost, but reliability as well. Everything is getting cryotreated...as a matter of fact all the cylinder head components (cams, valves, retainers, springs, seat locators...everything) are at the cryo shop. Hopefully by next week I should have the pistons & rods ready to go in aslo.

Here is a list of the main components:

Kinetix SSV Intake
JWT Cams
Ferrea valvetrain kit
ARP Head & Main Studs
Pauter Rods & bolts
JE Pistons
New Headgaskets (not sure which brand yet any suggestions?)
Turbonetics ST turbo

I have some pictures of the entire valvetrain kit + cams, however, I will have to post those once I get home from work. I will also be posting pics when I get parts in and during the install.

 

Did you talk to Turbonetics about this?? I sent them an e-mail recently about their kit with a built motor and they said there would be no programming available for higher boost on a lower compresion motor that they would supply. Be prepared for having to change to different engine management or a lot of back and forth work and $ with Technosquare.

 

I have already gone this route and my car should be ready by the end of next week, heres a list of some of the components i've used on my car:

Turbonetics Single Turbo kit
CP 8.5:1 pistons
Pauter Rods
ARP Head Studs/Main Bolts
New Headgaskets

I have future plans but so far these mods have got my pockets dry. Now let me tell you why I decided to build my engine. I got my turbonetics kit installed about 2 months ago, and about 24 hours later the block blew up into pieces. There was no mis-shifting and I was completely humilated by this because I swore to everyone I knew that this kit would be reliable on a stock block. Nobody has offered to help out with the funding including Turbonetics who I have called. I now have a new motor and the bottom end rebuilt. As far as engine management go's I am going to see how the car looks on the dyno with stock boost on this setup till I can afford to do engine management and tuning and then I will start to crank up the boost.

bill for engine rebuilt and parts and labor 10k

Ps: Beware nothing is as reliable as you think it is (IE: Turbonetics Turbo Kit)

 

this is one of the reason i don't like most garage when they install. They keep saying oh don't worry , you don't have to rebuild your engine. Damn right, it will blow up and i will have to bring back to fix and they make more money. stock engine is not build to handle the extra power. Even APS twin turbo, one local garage here keep telling me they install 7 cars WITHOUT rebuild any engine. Ofcourse, when those car's engine blow up, they have to come back to fix. Can't seem to find a honest garage nowadays.

 

Projectsherv

Sorry to hear about your motor blowing . Did you figure out what let go on the motor ? Thanks for coming foward to post your loss . All though APS is a very good complete kit , it goes to show every one that you take risks going FI and NO ONE and NO KIT is amuned

 

just for the record Booger he said TNetics not APS.

 

Ya ...I saw that after wards...to late to edit

 

If you're going to go all out on the motor, why not buy a twin kit? I sure would!

 

That sounds expensive for a built motor with no real headwork/cams...

Seems like you could buy one of the pre-built motors from SGP (the ones with limited headwork) + install/gaskets + tune, for $7.5k. Am I estimating too low?

I guess since your motor grenaded you lose money on the core, but I've seen blocks go for a little over $1k before..

 

read the" how to do the twin right the first time" by going deep

lists lots of the parts you'll need for the rebuild..

why did you list headgaskets? are u going with an aftermarket gasket?
you'll need a complete gasket overhaul set from nissan for any type of motor rebuild...
if you'd like, pm me your e-mail, i'll send you a spreadsheet that i compliled back when i went through this

TODD

 

Is it just me or do we seem to find out about these things in waves? A month goes by...nothing blows (fortunately), then all of the sudden...back to back posts about blown motors.

 

g356gear...no I haven't contacted Turbonetics yet, but now that you brought that to my attention I will do so ASAP.

I was thinking about the TT but I probably will never use them to their full potential. Sure with a built motor you can get it over 500whp but I don't want that because after 420whp (give or take some) it's a different ball game and more parts have to be changed out. Plus I'm getting a good deal on the Turbonetics from my builder...now it's just a matter of finding out if the Turbonetics can handle a lower compression, if not, then TT jumps to #1 on the list ...but I would run it at stock boost.

350ZdCald...I was actually going to order an engine rebuilt gasket kit from performance nissan, however, I'm sure there are better headgaskets than OEM for high horsepower applications. I know Nismo makes some, as well as a few others and I was wondering if anyone had any experience with these headgaskets.

 

So you are building up your motor to run stock boost on the Turbonetics kit? I'm going to assume you are going for the ultimate in reliability.

Hope all goes well, I think you are wasting your money though, JMO.

 

I think Turbonetics offers a bigger turbo upgrade. If you are building your engine, you should ask them about that.

 

Absolutely. You could phsyically fit a 62-1 or probably even a T66 into the space for the 60-1. I would certainly run a standalone with my built motor.

 

I would get the T66 and then see about the emanage ultimate. That would support 550whp+ That would be pretty damn cool!

 

Your build it the twins will come.The turbonetics is the last kit I would put on a built motor.

 

Why is that?

 

Actually the builder said he can actually get me a bigger turbo with the kit, he said he would let me know sometime this week. MIA you probably know him, Chris from Danzio Performance? Thanks for giving me their info BTW.

It sorta sucks $$$ wise that I have to get the MOTEC 600 ECU but I might not have another choice...the only thing is that I'm already running out of $$ to spend. So if the car cannot run without the MOTEC then the build will have to be on hold. If it can, then I'll be saving money to buy the MOTEC within a few months.

 

Motec why a Motec...The HKS Fcon V pro is a VERY good standalone that has worked and worked well on phunks car. Price for that is $1390 plus a couple hundred more for sensors etc. As for Chris Danzio yeah good guy...I was referred to him by Jhame from Turbonetics...