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Old Jul 10, 2005 | 12:27 PM
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Please do....where exactly did the shop decide to deviate from the Turbonetics plans?
I don't know, I honestly think they were overconfident on this... With all their "experience", so I would assume they just glanced over the instructions and didn't even read the instructions for the BOV/Wastegate....


Also I was reading the BOV instructions, and well there are two openings on the back side of the BOV.

The vacuum sensing line (top port), and the boost sensing line (bottom port)...

Well is this what your bov look like?






Also that fitting, is it supposed to be tighten all the way? And well that same one does not fit the other opening.

God I should have just done it myself, and let them do the gauges/dyno.


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The better question is why. Honestly, they were given a kit and paid to install it (correctly, as could be done with the instructions).
That is like a restarunt charbroiling this **** out of your steak just because it is easier to cook that way.
just my thoughts ...
I really do think it is over confident, and slightly being full of themselves with their "experience". They kept saying kits are not perfect, and sometimes you have to make shift stuff to work right

Trust me I know exactly what you mean, it is like walking on ice because they are so well liked and know many round here... I learned from others way back when to be very careful when dealing with people certain ways cause they might be resulting problems. So they tech. installed the kit and the gauges, what we tech. agreed on... I guess I thought it was understood and basically didn't need to be said that they would see this through instead of treating me like a burden and a newb.

Anyway I will figure it out, hopefully.
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Old Jul 10, 2005 | 12:44 PM
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No that is not what mine looks like....here

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Old Jul 10, 2005 | 12:45 PM
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And another:

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Old Jul 10, 2005 | 12:48 PM
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BTW if having the line hooked there is making the BOV open when it is not supposed to then that is what is causing you to only get 6 PSI....Boost is leaking from the BOV when it shouldn't..
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Old Jul 10, 2005 | 12:51 PM
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BTW here is the text directly from the Install Manual...:

85. Install (1) 1/8” NPT x 5/32” hose fitting into the bottom port of the wastegate, and (1) 1/8” NPT x 5/32” hose
fitting into the top port of the blow-off valve, pointed out in FIGURE 78.
86. Cut approx. 2.5 feet of 5/32” vacuum hose (P/N 30542-BK), and route the hose from the upper intake plenum
(port shown in FIGURE 79) to the blow-off valve fitting. Cut approx. 2.5 feet of the same hose, and route it
from the fitting on the wastegate to the fitting on the compressor housing (installed in step# 60). Loosely zip
tie the hose as desired. NOTE: The operation of these turbocharger control devices rely on these hoses for
pneumatic signals, so do NOT pinch or crimp the hose in any way.


I have it online here: http://members.***.net/turbonetics35...icsinstman.pdf
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Old Jul 10, 2005 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
BTW if having the line hooked there is making the BOV open when it is not supposed to then that is what is causing you to only get 6 PSI....Boost is leaking from the BOV when it shouldn't..
Man, well I guess I have to wait on the part cause that fitting does not fit that other opening. Also I see that line goes into a t - line where other hoses continue from (where are yours going to?)... Great now when it stops raining I will have to get really in there to see if they even did the hoses/lines similar.


Also thank MIA, though I had the old version on the install instructions on my laptop... And when this was all going down I got the newer version install instructions...

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Old Jul 10, 2005 | 02:32 PM
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No prob....Mine is t to go to my boost gauge and there was another t to go to a boost controller but its not hooked up right now...
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Old Jul 10, 2005 | 05:24 PM
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Well, the bright side of things is that it looks like it'll be an easy fix once you have the correct fitting. Does the other hole need to be plugged?
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Old Jul 10, 2005 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by kosmic
Well, the bright side of things is that it looks like it'll be an easy fix once you have the correct fitting. Does the other hole need to be plugged?
Thats a good question...I will check mine tonight...
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by kosmic
Well, the bright side of things is that it looks like it'll be an easy fix once you have the correct fitting. Does the other hole need to be plugged?
BOV instructions say no, that the lower port needs to breath but you can connect it so it may be more responsive.

It should be a pretty easy fix, but I do worry that if they connect it to that opening maybe they also followed the rest on where it was supposed to go. So instead of connecting to the intake plenum, they followed through with the connecting to the compressor tube or where ever the instructions state.

Also thanks MIAPLAYA, still raining around here
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
Thats a good question...I will check mine tonight...
I don't think it does. Mine has no fitting in it at all. The hole is just wide open. Of course, if that's not right, it could explain why my BOV sounds like a wild turkey call rather than the typical Pssshhhhh sound of a BOV. Anyone elses sound like this?
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 08:07 AM
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Mine is open as well....sorry I didn't post last night.... Peking sounds like this shop needs a lesson in instruction reading...
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
Mine is open as well....sorry I didn't post last night.... Peking sounds like this shop needs a lesson in instruction reading...
That is for damn sure, and I will let them know when I go back to dyno sometime this week after work...

Cause guess what guys... I am now hitting 8psi And it feels much better, infact it really pulls hard

Now I ordered a bunch of stuff from Dave at Altrered which will get here tomorrow. But that is ok, cause you never know when you might need some bolts, fittings, gaskets, and whatever else.

So thanks so much guys, but not sure if it is just my AEM UEGO... But I am def. looking forward to some alternative fuel/engine managements
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That is for damn sure, and I will let them know when I go back to dyno sometime this week after work...

Cause guess what guys... I am now hitting 8psi And it feels much better, infact it really pulls hard

Now I ordered a bunch of stuff from Dave at Altrered which will get here tomorrow. But that is ok, cause you never know when you might need some bolts, fittings, gaskets, and whatever else.

So thanks so much guys, but not sure if it is just my AEM UEGO... But I am def. looking forward to some alternative fuel/engine managements
What is your AFR?
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
What is your AFR?
I'd be interested to see a chart of this as well.
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Peking again glad you got it figured out...please let me know on all that stuff we talked about last night...
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
Peking again glad you got it figured out...please let me know on all that stuff we talked about last night...
Yeah, and thanks...

Well I haven't taken her to the dyno yet... But drove to work and home today... Much smoother than the first time taking her home from the shop. I am only able to go off the AEM UEGO A/F, and it is not just going to super rich (where it goes beyond 11.1) as soon as you put some gas. So I am guessing the extra boost is leaning it out alittle, but higher in the rpm it still goes rich but atleast it doesn't seem like the same thing as before.
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Originally Posted by Peking
Yeah, and thanks...

Well I haven't taken her to the dyno yet... But drove to work and home today... Much smoother than the first time taking her home from the shop. I am only able to go off the AEM UEGO A/F, and it is not just going to super rich (where it goes beyond 11.1) as soon as you put some gas. So I am guessing the extra boost is leaning it out alittle, but higher in the rpm it still goes rich but atleast it doesn't seem like the same thing as before.
From what I understand, higher in the RPM band (like around 4500 - 5000 RPM), they start adding a lot more fuel just to keep things safe. You can see this in action on my dyno charts.....Yours will probably look similar.....Ignore the extremely poor power numbers on my chart. My car seems to have a larger issue that I'm still working on with AAM and Turbonetics, but this gives you an idea of what the curve looks like.


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