How many miles on your Z/G before you went FI?
Originally Posted by Z BOY
i think we z/g owners should flatout boycott the greddy unit until they offer a truly complete, safe kit. otherwise, what incentive do they have to make it better? jmo.
would be nice if they compensated all those that basically "tested" their kit for them in the beginning (me)
*Wipes tear away* (Referring to 350ZdCalb's long reply)
Preach on brother
. . .
This is very true and I know many FI junkies have fantasies of hitting 425+whp without much effort, but the fact remains, its russian roulette when you don't address these items and exceed 380whp (or just have a crappy tune below that whp).
Just have a plan and don't be too thrifty with your budget. After all, is $600 in gauges or even $1600 or so in forged internals really worth having to pay twice that to rebuild an engine? The labor is miniscule compared to the worst case scenario fellas, so chalk up the cash
G
Preach on brother
. . .This is very true and I know many FI junkies have fantasies of hitting 425+whp without much effort, but the fact remains, its russian roulette when you don't address these items and exceed 380whp (or just have a crappy tune below that whp).
Just have a plan and don't be too thrifty with your budget. After all, is $600 in gauges or even $1600 or so in forged internals really worth having to pay twice that to rebuild an engine? The labor is miniscule compared to the worst case scenario fellas, so chalk up the cash
G
Originally Posted by 350zDCalb
would be nice if they compensated all those that basically "tested" their kit for them in the beginning (me)
20,000 miles before ATI Procharger
about 8-9000 miles with ATI Procharger
tracked numerous times, beaten everyday, rev'ed up to 7500rpms and more ;-) and still running....*crosses fingers*
about 8-9000 miles with ATI Procharger
tracked numerous times, beaten everyday, rev'ed up to 7500rpms and more ;-) and still running....*crosses fingers*
I installed my APS TT with just about 60,000 miles on my 350 and currently am just about to turn 77,000 on it.!! Car is running better than ever! APS plenum going on this week and better track times on there way!
Originally Posted by g8tor20
I, like many on here, have read these FI forums and drooled over many of your setups. My question is simple; How many miles did you have on your Z/G before you decided to go FI? Right away? A bit closer to the end of the warranty? Please also tell us what FI system you decided to go with and how many miles since your install. Just curious to hear the different responses. TIA
My APS TT kit went on at 4020 miles. Still holding together at 4888 miles as of last night
at 500 miles I put on the Stillen stage II, 13000 miles later it's still all good, 8lb pulley on thursday
I am changing out the stock flywheel and clutch today though .... it's about ready to bite the dust :|
Colin
I am changing out the stock flywheel and clutch today though .... it's about ready to bite the dust :|
Colin
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Originally Posted by 350zDCalb
this comment seems to surface weekly...i will reiterate what many have said before (and the truth of the matter)
the greddy tt kit is NOt complete out of the box...APS, and some others are more complete, making them safer when used "out of the box"
the greddy tt kit CAN be just as safe..you must address a few things first:
1-ignition harness--you must pull timing to make any forced induction safe --(the unichip on the APs kit does this-definately adds to its reliability)
2-must tune the e-manage fuel map--can not rely on the out of the box e-manage map--it sucks and is dangerous
3-one SHOULD address the fuel system is going over, say 7psi or so (8.5psi and above is closer to where the stock fuel system is maxed out)...get a return system with a 1:1 FPR
4-A/F gauge and EGT..monitor them daily to ensure ECU hasn't mutated the tune into a leaner condition...if you are running any F/I without at least these two gauges,,you are just guessing and praying...you need to be able to monitor these two imputs!!!
if these 4 things were followed on EVERY greddy tt kit that was installed...you wouldn't hear all of these horror stories (mine included, believe me, i learned the hard way)
so...greddy should not advertise their kit as "complete" or ready to go "out of the box"..they should add some disclaimers about the 4 abovementioned items...
but, just because they don't forewarn anybody about their kit, doesn't make their kit, when used properly (with the 4 crucial items above) any more dangerous than the rest!!!
and..to add...companies like www.forgedinternals.com (sharif) are EXPERTS regarding the greddy tt kit and ALWAYS give the best recommendations to any greddy customers- to insure the safety of their kit
those whp blew a motor on the greddy kit either: had the kit when it firts came out and didn't know to do all of these 4 precautionary dealies (me)...
ran too much power- the internals couldnt physcially handle the stress (few)...or didn't heed any of the abovementioned advice and figured they would be ok (most)
the greddy tt kit is NOt complete out of the box...APS, and some others are more complete, making them safer when used "out of the box"
the greddy tt kit CAN be just as safe..you must address a few things first:
1-ignition harness--you must pull timing to make any forced induction safe --(the unichip on the APs kit does this-definately adds to its reliability)
2-must tune the e-manage fuel map--can not rely on the out of the box e-manage map--it sucks and is dangerous
3-one SHOULD address the fuel system is going over, say 7psi or so (8.5psi and above is closer to where the stock fuel system is maxed out)...get a return system with a 1:1 FPR
4-A/F gauge and EGT..monitor them daily to ensure ECU hasn't mutated the tune into a leaner condition...if you are running any F/I without at least these two gauges,,you are just guessing and praying...you need to be able to monitor these two imputs!!!
if these 4 things were followed on EVERY greddy tt kit that was installed...you wouldn't hear all of these horror stories (mine included, believe me, i learned the hard way)
so...greddy should not advertise their kit as "complete" or ready to go "out of the box"..they should add some disclaimers about the 4 abovementioned items...
but, just because they don't forewarn anybody about their kit, doesn't make their kit, when used properly (with the 4 crucial items above) any more dangerous than the rest!!!
and..to add...companies like www.forgedinternals.com (sharif) are EXPERTS regarding the greddy tt kit and ALWAYS give the best recommendations to any greddy customers- to insure the safety of their kit
those whp blew a motor on the greddy kit either: had the kit when it firts came out and didn't know to do all of these 4 precautionary dealies (me)...
ran too much power- the internals couldnt physcially handle the stress (few)...or didn't heed any of the abovementioned advice and figured they would be ok (most)
Well,
I was not expecting such a response from the group here. I understand everyone has their opinions on this matter. I do apologize for the deviation from the topic matter but thought I would answer with my configuration.
AAM advised me and is performing the installation (and tuning) of my Greddy TT kit. The setup includes (among other things) the TT w/ 440 cc injectors, Intercooler, BOV, wastgate, complete AAM Fuel System w/ Walboro pump, AAM Y-Pipe, AMM Angled Plenum spacer, Boost & Exhaust gauges, HKS boost controller, e-manage, ATS Twin plate carbon clutch/flywheel, grounding kit and High Flow Cat. In addition I am having the ECU flashed and dyno tuned by AAM.
If anyone feels I have missed something that would assist in providing realibility please feel free to PM me with suggestions. I agree skimping in $1,000 parts after spending well over $10k is not sound.
I think this will provide me the reliability/stability I desire. In addition if I choose in the years to come, to build the internals, I have a system that can take advantage of it with some further minor modifications
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Finally got My Greddy TT Installed
I just wanted to let you know I got everything installed and the setup is working well. 420 HP to the wheels and running smooth.
