I plan on getting the Emanage ultimate but before that I want to get a good wideband...how is the LC-1 from Innovative ?? Do you guys feel its effeciant enough to use even for datalogging ?? Im gonna be using the Emanage Ultimat most likely so how does this match up with the EU..how does the Innovative product match up to the PLX M-500 ?? I know it has more features, but are they really needed ??

thanks for any type of information you can give me...users wanna comment on it, please do

-matt

 

I order the standalone yesterday... same question here!!!

 

I like my stand-alone gauge lc-1 alot. I have not done any datalogging with it yet, but I did have it connected to the computer just to check it out and was happy with it.

As far as being a gauge, it is great because it is super-thin and very easy to read. Also the colors of the gauge leds can be change if that makes you happier with it.

I looked at the PLX-500 as well and decided on the LC-1 mainly because of price and Innovate's great respect by so many people. Plus they have online video tutorials on how to use their products properly, which is nice to have.

 

Anyone have pictures of these units in their car? Can someone recommend a site to purchase these.

 

nice

 

here is mine, i love the gauge, but to my understanding you can not data log with it, you must have the lm-1 to go with the lc-1 to data log, also an rpm signal adapter must be purchased to capture the rpm from the ecu. im sure sharif will chime in here in a sec. also check out innovate's forum, plenty to read there.
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/forums/index.php
i will give the gauge a 9 out of 10, the color changing ability is awsome, but not being able to datalog like the zeitronix i had was a little bit of a let down, but im still very happy with it. plus their customer service is AMAZING, i had a problem with my gauge (installing it ) and i had email back from then as soon as i sent them. very nice company to deal with.

 

I recommend getting it from Sharif (Forged Internals).

 

here you go, you can purchase from sharif at forgedinternals.com for $375.00, cheaper than from innovate.


http://www.forgedinternals.com/store...cat=257&page=1

 

Cool..thanks guys. I love these gauges too...so much that I have two in my personal car....one for each bank. $375 shipped, and I have them in stock.


Here is the link to my online store: http://www.forgedinternals.com/store...cat=257&page=1

 

Sharif, I thought you took these out of the pods because of the clearance issues. Did you get that resolved? Just curious, because I need another place to put a guage.

 

They are still in the pod, but its a POS so I dont sell the pods. They gauges still gently kiss the steering wheel, but I can live it for now. I have no other place for these gauges at the moment.

 

You able to datalog with it correct ? it has the same capabilities as the LM-1 ?? Im going to be gettin the EU most likely, so I dont think Ill have to worry about the guage datalogging, I can datalog through the EU...thats what the EU's for

-matt

 

such a passionate man...they "gently kiss"...man, i'm getting all emotional

 

You can datalog with it as long as the EU knows the proper format for that given wideband. I would e-mail Greddy to check.

 

It will not datalog on its own. It "feeds" a datalogger. If you need dedicated datalogging capability, then you should order the LM-1, with an add one XD-1 Gauge, rather than the complete stand-alone package.

Matt, most people will simply take the analog output from the Innovate Standalone Gauge pictured, and send it to the eManage Ultimate, or other device that can datalog, such as an e-01 boost controller.

 

So if i plan on getting the EU, get the LC-1 ??

I was reading on the innovative site that you need to turn the car on with the bung outside of the exhaust, then power it up and let it see ambient temp air for a certain amount of time, then plug it in to the exhaust. When i get my exhaust welded on, im gonna be having the WB bung welded into the exhaust, and its gonna be kinda dificult to have the bung see regular air and all of that...Is it ok to have the bung welded in, wideband pluged up and start the car ??

How do you guys install yours ??

-matt

 

Matt, if you plan to get the EU, then yes, get the LC-1 with gauge. The one I linked you to the standalone gauge package, which includes the LC-1 and the XD-1 gauge. If you feel you do not need a gauge, then I can get you an LC-1 wideband controller with sensor, as a seperate item. They are $199.

You only need to expose the sensor to air when you do the initial calibration. For all subsequent calibrations, you can do this procedure after the car has been sitting for 12 hours, such as in the morning before you start up the car. So you will never have to remove the sensor from the bung.

 

No I definetly want the guage, im just tryin to figure out what I will need to datalog..Im most likely getting the EU, so i can datalog through that...is there a way to just get the XD-1, and connect that to the EU, or do I need the LC-1 to get the signal ??

-matt

 

You need the LC-1 and sensor at get the signal. The complete standalone package is what would work best, in your situation.

 

To log with the LC-1 you have to download the latest version (2.0) of Logworks from the Innovate website. Install that on your laptop and hook it up using the supplied cables and bam! realtime A/F data logging. The LC-1 will accept other inputs as well, but you have to have that latest version of the software or its a no go. I found that out when I received my LC-1/XD-1 combo a while back when the software (ships with version 1.x) wouldn't start logging. Innovate's forum section is very helpful and that is where I found the solution for Logworks 2.0 and the download.