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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 09:15 AM
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how many of you guys have closed your decks doing F I
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 09:39 AM
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not many at all from what I see..

I think Phunk's and the other yellow wide body are sleeved, that's the only 2 I know of so far..

did I miss anyone? oh yeah there is one G35 sedan that was AEBS sleeved, I forget his name sorry.
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 09:44 AM
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so AEBS will sell just the sleves to have your adeck closed
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 10:16 AM
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Getting the motor sleeved is not the same as running closed deck. When you are running closed deck the cylinders are completely supported up top closing off the cooling jackets and you only have small holes drilled to allow coolant to flow. Here is a closed deck AEBS:



Here is a mid deck DARTON:


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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 10:20 AM
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i know what it does i was just wondering how many people have done it and what it did for them i am having mine done for my altima
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 10:24 AM
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Well I haven't seen many people having cylinder wall problems it is normally a rod problem so closed deck for added cylinder wall strength probably isn't needed. You planning on running alot of horsepower? The cooling of the cylinders isn't as good and getting good headgasket seal is sometimes hard with a closed deck.
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 10:40 AM
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we are hoping to run at least 18-20 psi we want 400 to 450 whp
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 11:44 AM
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we are hoping to run at least 18-20 psi we want 400 to 450 whp
umm yeah, you can have that with sub 10psi on the stock motor, just to let you know.
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 12:03 PM
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Would this be single or twins?
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 12:06 PM
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I think you both missed the line where he said Altima. He might not even be talking about a VQ35DE.
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 12:09 PM
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I think you both missed the line where he said Altima. He might not even be talking about a VQ35DE.
He is I'm sure...they have VQ35s too....
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 12:18 PM
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He is I'm sure...they have VQ35s too....
Not all of them. I'm giving him an out after he made that statement about 18 psi and 400 whp.
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 01:16 PM
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Sleeving is unneeded at those power levels. Only time will tell if the stock block will support 600-800whp without sleeving it up. I have been using that phrase a lot lately....only time will tell...sorry. But I think its appropriate here, given the newness of the VQ35 and really high boost territory.

The two people that got AEBS sleeves have had various head sealing related issues. Whether it was the sleeves, or something else...is arguable. But given the track record, I would recommend the Darton over AEBS.

IS AEBS still in business, BTW?
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 01:22 PM
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Sleeving is unneeded at those power levels. Only time will tell if the stock block will support 600-800whp without sleeving it up. I have been using that phrase a lot lately....only time will tell...sorry. But I think its appropriate here, given the newness of the VQ35 and really high boost territory.

The two people that got AEBS sleeves have had various head sealing related issues. Whether it was the sleeves, or something else...is arguable. But given the track record, I would recommend the Darton over AEBS.

IS AEBS still in business, BTW?
I would agree with that.

Yeah, AEBS is still in business. Long story, they are designing the website on their own...it isn't going very well apparently.
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 01:28 PM
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damn...low blow. AEBS is still in business, they can make a hella of a honda block to hold 1000hp, with the VQ im waiting on a car down here for his tune, its block is by them. I think there goal is to make more power than you, im not hate'in or anything, i should them your dyno, time will tell, right.
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 01:30 PM
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my AEBS sleeve held the headgaskets just fine. I had posted that I had thought I blew a headgasket, but then I posted later saying that was not the case.
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 09:27 PM
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sorry it toook so long to answer your questions yes it is a VQ35 i know that there not needed at 400 - 450 but id rather be safe than sorry i am going to build the motor right the first time what do you guys think about 400 - 450 fwhp
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by cakerst
what do you guys think about 400 - 450 fwhp
can you say torque steer?????
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by cakerst
sorry it toook so long to answer your questions yes it is a VQ35 i know that there not needed at 400 - 450 but id rather be safe than sorry i am going to build the motor right the first time what do you guys think about 400 - 450 fwhp
I wouldnt even start to think about sleeves until about 550whp...even then...debatable if thats needed.
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 07:08 AM
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I think we just got into troll territory. If this person "really" wants this much power then they aren't going to sleeve the motor. We all know that.

EDIT: He is a troll. Here is another thread he started http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/sho...oto=nextnewest

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