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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 12:33 PM
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I am installing my EU tonight (if FedEx drops it off) or sometime in the next few days. I have been looking through other threads with information and am just kind of overloaded now But only Harness C on the emanage ultimate needs to be wired in, so I just need to make sure that I wire in everything that is needed and not wire in what I don't need...

From what I can tell I need to not wire these into the supplemental harness...Analog Voltage Input, Analog Voltage Output, Cam Angle, Vehicle Speed Input, and Vehicle Speed Output. I also read that I need to wire in the water temp or intake temp and knock sensor on a 3-way rocker switch.

12V Power: 109, 119
ECM Ground: 1, 115, 116
Mass Airflow: 51
Throttle Position: 50 (Not 106)
Crank Position: 13
Injector 1: 23
Injector 2: 42
Injector 3: 22
Injector 4: 41
Injector 5: 21
Injector 6: 40
Ignition 1: 62
Ignition 2: 81
Ignition 3: 61
Ignition 4: 80
Ignition 5: 60
Ignition 6: 79
Intake Temp: 34
Water Temp: 73
Knock Sensor: 15

I compiled this list from a thread Sharif posted a few months back w/ other pins that were discussed later in the thread, but is this EVERYTHING that needs to be wired in?
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 02:25 PM
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i have my intake temp wired in but not my water temp. i have the knock signal going to the other channel, but the eu can't read that signal yet and will hopefully come in a near future update. you can chose between knock or temp signal based on the jumper settings inside the eu, so i don't think a toggle would work to make all 3 signals work.
i also had probs hooking up the tps to #50. it seems that only gets voltage when the motor is running, yet #106 has power at key on position and engine running condition. #106 runs on the same scale as #50, but i was only able to set the throttle pos setting in the parameters using #106. doesn't effect motor either way unless you were using tps as the scaling setting in some of the maps.
idle control valve wiring also will not work on this car.
option 1 2 can be used for map sensor input and a/f input both using the greddy pressure sensor harnesses. all and all it is pretty easy to figure out, but pulling your wire harness out from under the dash and pull it into the engine compartment will give you tons of room to work and make good connections.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 02:25 PM
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GOOD LUCK!

I just had Sharif wire mine to the AllSport harness. Much easier.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 02:28 PM
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 02:38 PM
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i have my intake temp wired in but not my water temp. i have the knock signal going to the other channel, but the eu can't read that signal yet and will hopefully come in a near future update. you can chose between knock or temp signal based on the jumper settings inside the eu, so i don't think a toggle would work to make all 3 signals work.
i also had probs hooking up the tps to #50. it seems that only gets voltage when the motor is running, yet #106 has power at key on position and engine running condition. #106 runs on the same scale as #50, but i was only able to set the throttle pos setting in the parameters using #106. doesn't effect motor either way unless you were using tps as the scaling setting in some of the maps.
idle control valve wiring also will not work on this car.
option 1 2 can be used for map sensor input and a/f input both using the greddy pressure sensor harnesses. all and all it is pretty easy to figure out, but pulling your wire harness out from under the dash and pull it into the engine compartment will give you tons of room to work and make good connections.

hmm, thats weird, cause in the other thread it said to use 50 only for TPS and not 106. I also have two pressure sensor harnesses coming to for the pressure sensor and wideband 02 guy, thats no big deal.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 03:00 PM
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yes i got that from a post also. but i originally hooked it to #106 and got the correct scaling on it. i switched it to #50 last night just to test it, and was only able to see power in that signal with the motor running. very hard to set the min and max values that you need to set in the parameters when not driving. #106, you can set the min and max values with just the key on. it is also the one greddy recomends in the eu instructions, with #50 being called for for the e blue.
it made no difference on my car either way as it will only use that measurement if you choose to use tps for scaling in any maps. which it sounds most are using the psi scaling for all the maps. you could do it either way i guess, but i am switching mine back to #106 tonight, lol.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 03:05 PM
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btw, there is another signal (i can't remember what pin #) where the tps signal is reversed. perhaps this was originally thought to be #106, but i assure you it is not and does give the correct signal.
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Use 50 for TPS...trust me.

MP, you will want to confirm that all your injectors channels are matched to the appropriate injector. Channel 1 to injector 1. Likely your injectors are correct, but the ignition wires will likely have to be rewired to match the proper channel. Call me if you have any questions. I am hoping your stuff will arrive at your house on Sat...FEDEX ground.
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potato/ patato- i got the same results with both wires, just harder to set min and max values on #50 i found. unless something is wrong with my throttle body or other related parts. if i can remember correctly, #106 is pedal position, and #50 is the signal sent to the throttle motor.
not trying to start a battle or confusion, but i have found both will work.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
Use 50 for TPS...trust me.

MP, you will want to confirm that all your injectors channels are matched to the appropriate injector. Channel 1 to injector 1. Likely your injectors are correct, but the ignition wires will likely have to be rewired to match the proper channel. Call me if you have any questions. I am hoping your stuff will arrive at your house on Sat...FEDEX ground.
I actually just got the tracking info via email a bit ago, says scheduled for tommorow. Thanks again Sharif.
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Is the RPM signal extractor that came with the Greddy TT kit used with the EU?
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 002-M-P
Is the RPM signal extractor that came with the Greddy TT kit used with the EU?
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 04:13 PM
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nope not used. you wire in the crank pos. sensor and choose that in the parameter settings when setting it up. make sure you have the upgrade though, i know sharif or i could email it to you. you will need it for the crank pos. sensor to work. it is the 1.06 update.
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Originally Posted by 002-M-P
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It doesnt need to be used. However, if you are running a Profec e-01, you may still want to keep it connected, so that you can feed an RPM signal to the Profec.
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