Yeah, that remains a mystery but my guess is cost.

 

I'd say thats a good guess.

FYI the ATX link in your signature isnt working, I think it should be http://www.atxmotorsports.com/

 

I have read your old posts and I am quite confused.
Was the Greddy problem also oil smoke?
The oil smoke problem you had in NJ, you posted that they tore down the turbos and the seals were fine, TED discovered the problem was weight of the oil if I am not mistaken (over the phone), and you never posted if that fixed the problem. That was one year ago.
So my confusion is, have you had an oil smoke problem with both kits,
or was it some other problem with the greddy kit, and the oil smoke is only with the PE kit,
has the PE kit had an oil smoke problem continuously since your smoke problem post in Oct 2004, or was that oil smoke problem resolved, and this is a new one?

This is all quite confusing.

If you have had a smoke problem during the Greddy kit, continued into the PE kit, and it was never resolved, I think you have a engine problem.

You also stated, no smoke with cats installed.

I am no engineer, but if you have had this smoke problem for more than a year, and it was with two different turbo kits, I for sure would be looking at the engine, not the turbos.

I am no expert on turbos, but I would assume if you pinched closed the oil feed line to the turbo, and the turbo had a bad seal, it would take quite a bit of time without oil feed to get a smoke free exhaust. You have had a oil smoke problem for over a year at least, there must be much oil built up in your exhaust system. Ask the guys with the APS oil problem, it takes quite a while to clear the oil out of the exhaust system.

Good luck. IMO, changing kits will not solve your problem.

 

^good thought

 

Okay Gringott let me clarify.

The Greddy kit never smoked but it did leak a bunch of places and almost set the car on an electrical fire due to a poor installation. I promptly sold the kit, in tact, to a happy customer who's now pushing 500whp+ with it.

Now, if I actually said they "tore down the turbos" I must have been confused. They tore down pretty much all the plumbing (from what ATX told me) and told me that they dont see oil anywhere. I don't think anyone ever touched the turbos themselves.

Ted merely suggested that I try a thicker oil, and when I did it helped the symptoms, but they certainly did not go away. I continued to have smoke even with the 40-weight VR1 racing oil.

So, to clarify, my car never smoked prior to like 3 months into the PE kit. It also doesn't smoke when you pinch the oil coming into the turbos, according to Ted. So, it's most certainly not the engine -- everyone's run a barrage of tests and nothing ever pointed to the engine.

I'm 99.9% sure that changing the kit would be a definitive, though awfully expensive way to solve the problem.

 

I'm sorry if it seems like I am prying, it is none of my business. Like a mechanic told me when I balked at a $750 repair bill, well, you can always buy a new 4x4 for $28K.
The $750 sounded good.

 

Hey slay2k,

Try putting a inline oil pump to pull oil from the turbos on the turbo drain line. T-barb the 2 drain lines from the turbos, and then to the new inline pump and oil pan. This is what my tuner reccomended to me and im going to try it out. Currently i get some smoke out of the exhaust on my APS TT when i let off the gas. I lose about 2 quarts of oil every 3k miles. My oil capacity should be 6.6 quarts with the APS oil pan but i only fill it to 5 quarts max. I hope the seals on the Garrets wont go out like the IHI's.

Replace those seals and have them reroute the oil lines with the new pump. I hope thats works man!

Oh yea, I doubt the oil is going past my piston rings because i dont get smoke when i floor it and my oil catch can is still near empty. My shop did run the oil drain lines per the APS instructions. IMO it was a tuff call on APS's part. The APS ST luckly wont have this problem because the turbo sits so high to the oil pan.

 

Enron, yeah I'll mention that to my mechanic.

With regards to your APS & smoke, try putting even less oil (4 qts, lets say), I have a feeling your smoke will go away. Ted is very familiar with this issue and knows the necessary routing to avoid this problem. I think he would just drill a hole high in the oil pan to avoid the effects of gravity.