Of course...Its a rally for Turbonetics owners but Sharif you are a Turbonetics vendor and certainly a VERY well respected and have contributed to the 350Z community to no end. I would be honored to have you on this trip... I am currently in talks with two sponsors to get us all tickets for the show and hopefully some walkway space for some of our cars.. Once I get off my lazy *** and finish the Turboentics Onwers Club server and page I'll have details and updates posted there.

 

...cant wait

 

...still cant wait =)

 

Come on guys... what about a APS TT?

 

meh...

 

Well new update guys, Thought I would shed some light on those looking into the stage two process!! Well they are going to build my t-60 into a t66 basically just switch out the wheel and machine. As for a wastegate I believe we are going with the New gen wastegate! Our power goal is going to be from 650whp to 700whp. I am going to be using RC 750cc Injectors with the UTEC ems. The entire shortblock will be built! No sleeves no fuel return.

 

700whp no sleeves or fuel return hmmm, Id do them for those power levels. Good luck.

 

Question:

1. How is that possible without a return fuel system?
2. What modifications will you do to the fuel system to reach those #'s?
3. What is the reason NOT to go without a return fuels system? You trying to save $1000?
4. Why no sleeves?

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JET

 

well with sgp's input and my shop as well the stock walls can handle 750whp max I will pry settle with anything in the 600's. As for the fuel system, I have done alot of research and found from many shops and many pros who do not use it and are sucessful.

 

yeah but at those power levels why risk all your work and money on something so small as a fuel return system, i dont see the point. just my 2cents.

 

As for the fuel system..... So in other words you have no idea how it will work. Even after all the research? Is it a secret?

Again.... if you don't use a return how will you make 700whp without it. What mods will you make.

I have to raise the flag on this one....



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JET

 

Let me preface my statement by saying that I 100% agree a fuel return system of some sort should be used. Maybe the fuel return setup Turbonetics is coming out with. Now that being said JWT has been running no return on all the VRT built cars just running a regulator in tank. It has worked for them so far but its not what I would do.

 

I'd have to agree that a return line isn't a magic end-all fix to any fuel solution. There are many experienced tuners/engineers out there that will tell you that they don't believe a return line is REQUIRED to make power, and they'd be absolutely right that it's not. The reason for it is that it is easier to tune for more power with it. Most shops out there will tell you that you need one because it makes the job easier and they are more comfortable dealing with a traditional fuel system. But, again, it is by no means an absolute requirement.

This is one of the fallacies perpetuated by information circulated on these forums that isn't necessarily the truth. Raising the BS flag on something just because someone on the forums "said so" is a bit extreme.

 

Well.... the other solution here is to run obscene fuel pressures which will really f*ck with the injectors.

Hey.... you can also bang in nails with a hammer.

No one on a forum has to tell me anything. If one understands how the fuel system works as I do you would know this method is not prudent.

This is not the right way to do it.

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JET

 

How is that? He is upping the injectors and fuel pressure to compensate so it shouldn't be a problem. As long as you are careful to insure uniform pressure across both rails, and minimal [to no] pressure drop at the injector, then you should be fine.

That being said, would you care to explain how supercharged mustangs have been achieving 700+whp on returnless systems for years now? (I know the answer) I'm not trying to be facetious, I just would like to hear your take on it and how it isn't comparable to this application.

Oh, and I'm not saying that a full return fuel system isn't a good thing. If you're going to be building your motor and pushing for big power I also don't see the harm in putting down an extra $1,000 for a new fuel system...

 

Hey Robert I cant seem to get anything from TN I want the T66 because I already have a fully built longblock sitting in my garage and a fuel return kit.
I just cant seem to get any info from Reggie or any help.

 

They've been a little swamped over there lately. I'll see whats up when I talk to him today.

 

THANK YOU!!!! some one understand! Cars for many years have been runing without a return system. Plus did you see my injector size???? 750cc and running about 650whp is only at a 60-70 percent duty cycle.

 

For the record, I think you are crazy for running that kind of HP (inb the 600's) without a fuel system (more importantly a rising rate FPR). You may be able to get it to work but as you start pushing things you need to become more precise. A rising rate FPR makes a lot of sense and the money is not huge considering what you will have put into the car with the other mods. It certainly will look cheap if you should run lean due to fuel issues.

The JWT TT setup does not use a fuel return because the return fuel line will prevent the system from passing the PZEV evaporative emissions test. But keep in mind that the JWT TT kit out of the box is making around 400hp NOT 600 or more. I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone on this board making over 600whp without a more significant fuel return system.

 

Hey Robert what about my Stinger battery?!


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