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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 01:58 PM
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I apologize in advance to all of you, oh knowledgeable ones, for my ignorance. I couldn't find anything on a search, so here it goes ...

I'm having the common grinding problem of shifting into 3rd which I understand are the syncros. This is under warranty for me. Since I have an APS TT kit installed, will the dealer have to uninstall this kit to install or repair this transmission failure?

I'm obviously not comfortable with this scenario. I'd want my tuner to uninstall the kit if needed and fix the transmission but how would I coordinate that? Or am I concerned for no reason? Is the removal of the kit not required. I'll be adding a new clutch and flywheel later this year. I just don't want this to be a PIA!

Sorry for my ignorance and TIA for the help!

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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 02:42 PM
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The dealership should not need to touch anything having to do with your turbo to pull your tranny.
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 02:56 PM
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The dealership should not need to touch anything having to do with your turbo to pull your tranny.
But I'd be worried about them voiding your warranty because of the TT kit. Some dealers probably wouldn't mind, but some are sticklers!
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 03:43 PM
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'sticklers'? are you kidding? you're pushing double the power through that transmission than stock... i'd be stunned if there was any dealer willing to warrantee a transmission with a turbo kit on there...

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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by bsp
The dealership should not need to touch anything having to do with your turbo to pull your tranny.
Thanks for the quick response, that's all I needed to know.
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 03:57 PM
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yeah head to your Tuner get your kit uninstalled then go to the dealer and have thme replace the transmission

if you leave your turbo on there the dealer will prolly blame the prob on the turbo kit and say that you have voided your warranty
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by failsafe306
But I'd be worried about them voiding your warranty because of the TT kit. Some dealers probably wouldn't mind, but some are sticklers!
They've been pretty good about all my mods so far and know I have this kit installed. I understand this kind of transmission problem has nothing to do with power levels.
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 04:09 PM
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still the dealerships tend to blame any problems after f/i on the f/i kits
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Zilvia
yeah head to your Tuner get your kit uninstalled then go to the dealer and have thme replace the transmission

if you leave your turbo on there the dealer will prolly blame the prob on the turbo kit and say that you have voided your warranty
If you're going to pay to get your TT kit uninstalled, and then pay again to get it reinstalled and retuned, you might as well just do the tranny at your own cost instead of having to go through the hassle of uninstalling and reinstalling the TT kit. If you look hard enough, I'm sure you can find a dealer to replace it for you under warranty.
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 05:19 PM
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Do you know what version of tranny you have? If you have a 005 or 006 they will definitely do it no matter turbo or not. Anything later than that is determined by you rapport with the dealer. Sounds like it won't be a problem for you. Lucky you don't have the greddy. You have to remove the wastegates to get the tranny out. Another reason to run the SVRT wastegate relocation kit.
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaki
If you're going to pay to get your TT kit uninstalled, and then pay again to get it reinstalled and retuned, you might as well just do the tranny at your own cost instead of having to go through the hassle of uninstalling and reinstalling the TT kit. If you look hard enough, I'm sure you can find a dealer to replace it for you under warranty.
I agree and I would never have it uninstalled and reinstalled to have the transmission replaced or repaired. It would cost more than a totally new transmission with a new clutch and flywheel. Isn't this why there's the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, the dealer has to prove the TT caused the transmission failure. I understand from others with this particular problem, the trasmission failure is not due to load. So hopefully my dealer will let this slide without a fight.
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by theking
Do you know what version of tranny you have? If you have a 005 or 006 they will definitely do it no matter turbo or not. Anything later than that is determined by you rapport with the dealer. Sounds like it won't be a problem for you. Lucky you don't have the greddy. You have to remove the wastegates to get the tranny out. Another reason to run the SVRT wastegate relocation kit.
I have no idea, I purchased it back in November of 02'.
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 06:09 PM
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Sychros can be damaged by hard or improper shifting, overevving, etc, but not from engine load. When you shift, there is little load on the tranny at the moment you are trying to engage the gears. Given the track record of problems with this tranny....even in the NA world...they should replace it without hassle. Fight for your rights!
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 06:23 PM
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t32gzz had the same thing happend to him and got it fixed, PM him, he might be able to help
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 06:27 PM
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I got mine in Dec '02 so you also have an early build. You definitely have the 005 version. It won't be a problem at all having it replaced under warrantee. Mine was replaced with 25k miles on the car. Mine got progressively worse until it would grind most of the time going into 3rd even when shifted slowly. It is a well known problem with these early transmissions.
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I have no idea, I purchased it back in November of 02'.
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 06:33 PM
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Just for info, I checked with the Nissan Dealership here, and supposedly, anyway per sei: They said the warranty for the transmission is voided when modified, i.e. cams, s/c, tt, etc. That was straight from the dealersip here, I did talk with the Service Dept, and the GM. Just for info anyway...
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 06:41 PM
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That sounds like a very mod unfriendly dealer. As Sharif said power output does not have a bearing on synchros.
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Just for info, I checked with the Nissan Dealership here, and supposedly, anyway per sei: They said the warranty for the transmission is voided when modified, i.e. cams, s/c, tt, etc. That was straight from the dealersip here, I did talk with the Service Dept, and the GM. Just for info anyway...
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by WSchli1672
Just for info, I checked with the Nissan Dealership here, and supposedly, anyway per sei: They said the warranty for the transmission is voided when modified, i.e. cams, s/c, tt, etc. That was straight from the dealersip here, I did talk with the Service Dept, and the GM. Just for info anyway...
Call another dealer. Worst case, contact Nissan North America and get serious with them. They are trying to blow you off.

Ask him if he even understands that the synchros actually do. Review this link before speaking with him, and prove to them that you know your stuff: http://auto.howstuffworks.com/transmission6.htm
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I don't know, really depends on the warranty and what can be done...I understand what Sharif said, but again, it's the dealership that would have to say the warranty covers it. And us to show that the reason for a tranny problem is not because of the mods, or addition hp or additonal torque or additonal anything didn't cause the problem. I'm no expert in the field. I know I haven't had any problems, but if one dealership says no, then a person would have to keep searching to find one the would say yes, and then post it so all the FI could go there, if the occasion arises, that they could get the use of the warranty at the location. As for NorCal, somebody please be sure to post it, so all can use it if needed.
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 07:56 PM
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I have the same problem same gear. My dealer said no way they would fix it. It really sux and its getting worse. New tranny is 1600.00
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