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Damn Todd you ain't messin around. I know him personally and I would have zero worries about him building me a block. He's really a genious. Too bad I have to buy the wife a house before I start sleeping in the back yard.

 

J,

Thanks for the kind words buddy. We'll get you a built motor... we can make it doable for you (just don't tell the wifey )

 

UPDATE: we now have 3 additional cores disassembled, in the machine shop, soon to be built...In the future, as a standard, we plan to have a few motors available for immediate purchase at all times. Will keep you all posted!!!

TODD

 

Cant wait till the site is up. !!!

 

Wow, the community totaly needs a company like this. Well done

 

would you be willing to let your engine that you have in now with the pauter rods and arias pistons go for cheap? can you pm me prices from a stock block to the top of the top. thanks

 

PM me prices on low compression short/long blocks please...I have an APS TT. Sorry for being so vague, but I don't know exactly what I want. Like someone else said, SGP is the only other place that lists their prices.

Also, what kind of warranty do these motors have?

 

I'll get you some prices soon..the reason that we don;t have any published prices yet, because the original porices that I am gicing out are introductory prices, they are extremely reasonable, but will go up slightly for our actual published prices on our site (am working on this with our developer today).

The warranty on any perfromance motor, IMO, is kind of a joke to begin with...all of the warranties are against defects...you'll have a heck of a time proving that the cause for a motor failure was a defect and not abuse/tune issues/overrevving, etc...
we will have the motors extremely well documented as they are built, showing what size bearings are used in which journal, all of the clearances will be documented and included for your records, this will show what clearances were allowed and what was used to show that the motors will be built to spec...
These motors will be built with exact precision and the builder is very experienced with the vq35 platform, the motor that I abuse daily in my car was built by SPEEDLAB...

Let me know if I can answer any other questions, I will get you some prices as soon as I get to my computer.

 

What tolorance spec's do you use for bearings for say a 500-600hp car vs a 800+hp motor?

 

Excellent idea. Might be doing business with you guys in the future. Best of luck.

 

I have built many honda engine using eagle rods, these engines are in the range of 700hp-800hp and a few making close to 900hp

parts that are more expensive are not always better.

 

You are asking a builder his proprietary info? Come on have some respect, this is what makes him the builder. (he has done the R&D, you can do this is well and come up with a spec for urself.)

 

The bearing specs will not change for a 6oohp engine vs a 800...the piston to wall clearances will differ if the pistons will be seeing higher temps for abusive periods of time...for the standard street car..the motors will be built within Nissan's guidlines as far as bearing sizes...the rotating assemble will be perfectly balanced..basically these will be precisely engineered motors...each motor will be built and designed with the correct combination of parts for the customers needs

 

Todd, would it be wise to consider using the Nismo bearings rather than OEM? I'm kinda curios as to how different these bearings are from the stock oem, and what the pro's/con's of them are. Just a thought.

 

last time i saw these, they were a ridiculous price, and the consensus was that they weren't worth the extra hassle and money...if somebody wants us to buils their motor with bismo bearings, we'll be happy to, just expect a good long wait to get them in, i suspect they are more difficult to get than the oem i think it's more of the "bling factor" ...like someone being able to say "i have nismo bearings"

 

Gawd I'm jealous, it must be nice to be in your situation right now (besides all of the PM's). All those resources you have to build bad ace motors....nice!

My fiance' is from Albuquerque, so does that mean I get a discount??????

This is the coolest thread that I have seen in a long time, I just wish I had the funds right now.

 

This company is something we have been talking about doing for sometime...I have a full, full time job..this is something that is filling up all of my other time I will be sending off 2 blocks to be sleeved with Darton sleeves, one motor is dedicated to one of our customers, if another sleeved motor order doesn't go in before I get them back, it will be my new motor!! I love working with these motors and working with the team at SPEEDLAB to discover new and better ways to advance the 350z built motor industry

Maybe you can convince your fiance to come visit some family up here, secretly drop your car off to us, and we'll swap out a built motor for you!!! Let me know when you are in the market so we can plan out the perfect setup for you...

 

No disrespect, but you made a claim that you publish all tolerances, blah, blah - I ask you a fair question, and you're now hiding behind this 'proprietary' crap when I called you on it. What good are published specs, if the data is missing and no one actually knows what you were shooting for.?

For the people on this forum looking for information and not just another sales pitch - tolerances are increased a thousandth to two thousandths of an inch based on HP levels. This is no big secret for a good engine builder... I think the stock size bearings are good for anything under 600hp – but it's recommended that you increase the tolerances by at least a thousandth of an inch at higher hp levels. Now granted, if you’re not running slicks, and really never putting a huge load on the motor – the recommended stock bearing sizes would probably be good for 800hp – but it’s a completely different story when you’re continuously loading up the motor.

Remember, the stock bearing tolerances were designed around a 300hp motor - I’ve said it before when some people where taking about secret cooling parts, and etc… it does no good for the Z/G community to hold back info – but then again, I have nothing to lose or nothing to gain.

Sorry if this came across as a rant –

 

Not trting to dodge your quesion, we have absolutely nothing to hide...coming from a 350z enthusiast just as yourself, we started discovering/learnign what the best ways for building these motors from trial and error and lots of money and time...I consult with some of the top builders in the country.
The consensus is as follows (keep in mind, we have not built a 1000whp motor yet- but we WILL ):
you want to build these motors tight...you want to follow nissan's specs, but as you said, these specs were designed for a motor that makes under 300 crank hp...
With the added heat that will be created in all of the moving parts...we will run slightly greater clearances for higher hp motors(higher meaning above 600hp)...let's say somebody wants a Darton sleeved motor that is going to be running 25psi all day long...well, there are certian life expectancy issues that will be expected with motors that are pushing the envelope with these extreme power levels, as the power goes up, the stress increases exponentially...these motors we will plan to run approx 2thousandths greater clearances throughout the bearings and an additional 2 thousandths in the piston to wall clearances...
all of these figures will be fully discussed with our other resources, but this is the general consensus..

hope this answers all of your questions, satisfies your rant and shows the entire 350z community that the last thing we are doing is hiding behind anything