Eagle rods vs Pauter rods..*pics
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Eagle rods vs Pauter rods..*pics
I received a shipment today to begin building a few motors... I snapped some pictures of the eagle rods vs the Pauter rods..I would feel comfortable running the Eagles making 600wheel horsepower!...These are definateky a very beefy design.
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It's nice to see the Eagle rods gaining some traction in the VQ community. When we finally have ppl making 600+whp with the Eagles, then the whole issue regarding their strength and reliability will finally be answered, especially for those in doubt.
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nvm...just looked through the pics again and realized the the Egales are solid all the way, so yeah def would restate the the egales will prolly hold more.....but im no pro,nor do i have any experince in motor Tech
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Originally Posted by Fairlady_z33
What i have heard is that pauter or crower rods were the badboys for big hp motors
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The bottom line is that they are more expensive up front. But IMHO it makes more sense to spen more up front and not worry about bending or breaking one. If you are building your engine, you may as well do it all right the first time as rebuilding it if something blows is A LOT more costly. Do it right the first time and save a TON of money.
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Originally Posted by Navygolf13
The bottom line is that they are more expensive up front. But IMHO it makes more sense to spen more up front and not worry about bending or breaking one. If you are building your engine, you may as well do it all right the first time as rebuilding it if something blows is A LOT more costly. Do it right the first time and save a TON of money.
i would feel comfortable running 600 wheel hp on the eagles...when i build myself a darton sleeved motor, and run 23-25psi, i'll use pauters, until the research is more conclusive
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Im building a new shop on my property after losing my lease of 10 yrs on my old one. One of my first prioritys is to build the motor in my 03 Z Vortech. The eagles are so much more reasonably priced. And u have to relize that with the bigger companys ur paying for overhead and their name. Im going to give the Eagles a chance to prove themselves to me on my build. Structurally both look sound --I would be curious as to The material used in both and u have also got to relize the weak link being the Bolts. Its interesting as far as the weight difference. Much more research on my part though before I start. This is new territory for me but Iv been building motors for almost 30 yrs and am excited bout creating a new life form which obviously has good Genes !!
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Anybody who believes that EITHER of those rods are going to bend or break at ANY power level that you'd make on the street knows very little about engine internals. The only way you're going to snap one of those is with detonation, and by then it won't matter which one you have....
Either the pauters or the Eagles are overkill for anyone under 800whp....but overkill isn't a bad thing. I love some of the very "educated" comments in this thread about how the rods "look" coming from people with no experience building motors.
Either the pauters or the Eagles are overkill for anyone under 800whp....but overkill isn't a bad thing. I love some of the very "educated" comments in this thread about how the rods "look" coming from people with no experience building motors.
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Originally Posted by BriGuyMax
Anybody who believes that EITHER of those rods are going to bend or break at ANY power level that you'd make on the street knows very little about engine internals. The only way you're going to snap one of those is with detonation, and by then it won't matter which one you have....
Either the pauters or the Eagles are overkill for anyone under 800whp....but overkill isn't a bad thing. I love some of the very "educated" comments in this thread about how the rods "look" coming from people with no experience building motors.
Either the pauters or the Eagles are overkill for anyone under 800whp....but overkill isn't a bad thing. I love some of the very "educated" comments in this thread about how the rods "look" coming from people with no experience building motors.
overkill is the best word to describe these two rods, but like you said, overkill is a good thing when building a motor that is going to see a lot of abuse
I put the pics up to visually give poeple a baseline comparison, it helps to SEE them side by side...but eagle has been making rods for years and the exact same design has been used in several, higher hp applications compared to the numbers that we are commonly pushing with the vq's
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Originally Posted by 350zDCalb
overkill is the best word to describe these two rods, but like you said, overkill is a good thing when building a motor that is going to see a lot of abuse
I put the pics up to visually give poeple a baseline comparison, it helps to SEE them side by side...but eagle has been making rods for years and the exact same design has been used in several, higher hp applications compared to the numbers that we are commonly pushing with the vq's
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I put the pics up to visually give poeple a baseline comparison, it helps to SEE them side by side...but eagle has been making rods for years and the exact same design has been used in several, higher hp applications compared to the numbers that we are commonly pushing with the vq's
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If I am not mistaken- also from an engineering standpoint based on stress distribution the H-design would be stronger anyways. Obviously other things play in to the strength such as material and processes. But I would think that would be a good reason why the h-design is so widely used by other companies. This does not mean that the Pauter lack structural integrity of course as they are well proven.
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Originally Posted by turismo
The Pauters are still way stronger than the eagles. You cann't compare forged to billet
I dont think anybody would deny that... but unless you are approching 900whp, you dont have to worry about either one.... as long as you arent detonating like briguymax said