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Old 04-02-2006, 07:37 PM
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Ok guys here is the problem i got the AAM 3 inch W/G dumps, ipcheck (forum member) and I decidied we would install them in my car today but things didnt turn out as planned.

We were doing good up to the point that we had to start removing the turbo components. As he started to take out the bolts from the pipe that connects the turbo to the test pipe ipcheck took the first out but when he went to the second one it broke so now i have half a bolt in the turbo housing.

I have no idea how to get it out. Can someone help me here.


BTW do we have to drop the turbo to do this installation.

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Old 04-02-2006, 08:57 PM
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Does anyone know what can be done or any advice.
Old 04-02-2006, 08:58 PM
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Does anyone know what can be done or any advice.
Old 04-02-2006, 09:42 PM
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Drill a small hole in the center of the bolt and use a screw extractor... You can get screw extractors at any hardware store. Otherwise, you have to drill the whole bolt out and retap the hole. Good luck.
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If the bolt stick out a little a i get a plier and try to unscrew it
Old 04-02-2006, 10:04 PM
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with the bolt breaking off in there it is because it either was cross threaded or galvanic reaction locked it in there. would be very surprised if you would be able to get it out with pliers. about all you can try first is the stud extractor way, or drill it out and retap larger as mentioned earlier.
Old 04-02-2006, 10:16 PM
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with a high dollar item like a turbo, i would cosider taking it to a machinist shop to remove the broken bolt. they have ways of extracting, and if that fails they can drill it out easier than you can at home (and more precisely). good luck!
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ok guys thanks alot. Ill keep you guys posted
Old 04-03-2006, 05:38 AM
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can i get the screw extractor in a autozone or a discount auto parts or just the hardware stores
Old 04-03-2006, 07:48 AM
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yes you can get the extractor at most of those places. I would get it from home depot with a titanium bit to drill the starting whole.
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ok thanks im taking it to a buddy of mine that work's at nissan we r going to put it on the lift n work on it.
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Hey guys i took my car this morning to the mechanic at nissan he has all the tools to do the job. Well same outcome he says that the bolts are cross threaded. He told me that he was not going to put force becouse he wasnt going to start snappin the head of the bolts.

Even the one of my W/G bolts r a little loose and all those bolts r hard as hell. Japtrix did this job do i hold them in account for this problem do they have to resolve this for me. Or am i barkin up the wrong tree here.

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Broken or seized bolts can happen from time to time. The extreme heat on the housing can contribute to this. Sometimes, shops will put some anti-sieze compound on these items, which can prevent this from happening.

Overall, I dont think I shop should be held responsible for a broken bolt, unless they were installing the downpipes for you, and they broke the bolt in the shop. In this case, they obviously would be obligated to fix it.

To answer your earlier question, the turbos do not have to be removed in order to install the new 3 inch downpipes. Just unbolt the current downpipe, testpipe, and wastegate (only the flange on the downpipe side).

Did your mechnic try soaking the crap out of that bolt, with some kind of nutbuster product?

Best of luck.
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He was working on it from 9:30 to like 1:00 he tried everything possible. He only removed the two bottom one's from the mid pipe and one from the other side for some reason all the rest dont come out at all even the W/g's r really hard.


I know their is extreme heat down their but i never hear this problem from anyone plus my car only has 3k miles on it with the kit.

I have a wrench stuck in one of my W/G becouse we tried going a different route now japtrix is closed for like 3 or so more weeks im stock.

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Originally Posted by Fairlady_z33
Hey guys i took my car this morning to the mechanic at nissan he has all the tools to do the job. Well same outcome he says that the bolts are cross threaded. He told me that he was not going to put force becouse he wasnt going to start snappin the head of the bolts.

Even the one of my W/G bolts r a little loose and all those bolts r hard as hell. Japtrix did this job do i hold them in account for this problem do they have to resolve this for me. Or am i barkin up the wrong tree here.
Tough call, but I would say that you are indeed "barkin up the wrong tree" for a couple of reasons. You have no idea why the bolt is stuck, yes your friend says that it is cross threaded, but how the heck does he know until it comes out. Even then you may not know. Sounds to me like he is talking out of his ****. There are lots of reasons the bolt could have broken... it could have corroded in; it could have been defective from the factory; the hole in the turbo could have been misdrilled or misthread; etc... Bottom line is that you really have no reason to think that Japtrix did anything wrong (at least from what you have told us so far). I will also note that YOU are the one that broke it, Japtrix has no way of knowing what happened after the car left their shop... But they do know that you were messing with it.

That said, there are many shops that will stand by their work when something goes wrong even when it is not their fault -- if for no other reason than to make sure they maintain a good rep. Call Gus up and tell him what happened, he may not do it for free (in fact, I doubt anyone would), but maybe he will work something out with you. If not, I don't think you get far blaming Japtrix for this issue when you really do not have any evidence that they did anything wrong.

Just my .02... Good luck. If I were you I would just take the turbo down, get the bolt drilled out by a pro and retap it... That should not take too long or be very expensive. Any machine shop will be able to do it.

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Im not blaming no one im just asking and the bolt being corroded we took out 3 the only three that came out and the looked basically brand new.
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usually if it sticks out you can use the plier the type that locks , it will do the job. if the bolt does not stick out , your solution is normally a machinist , he will drill a hole and with a reverse rotation take it out , and if the threads are ruined he can redrill at the same place a new threaded hole with a new bolt ( a bit larger than the old one). i messed up two bolts myself before
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Ok thanks guys i laready talked to japtrix they said they would do the job and charge what they normally were going to charge for the install
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