Stillen Stage 4 no power gain
04-26-2006, 04:06 PM
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Fawk it!!! I'm in an instagating mood tonight 
Doc. G, before you reply please insure the funds are "in da bank". Hate to see you write a check your skills can't cash..
Doc. G, before you reply please insure the funds are "in da bank". Hate to see you write a check your skills can't cash..
04-26-2006, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
Hes been saying all kinds of dumb $hit with nothing to back it up, hes a true troll...
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04-26-2006, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
Hes been saying all kinds of dumb $hit with nothing to back it up, hes a true troll...
04-26-2006, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by caucasiancoupe
the original post said no power gains. then he took to stillen. what was the outcome?
04-27-2006, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by atlsupdawg#2
Fawk it!!! I'm in an instagating mood tonight
Doc. G, before you reply please insure the funds are "in da bank". Hate to see you write a check your skills can't cash..
Doc. G, before you reply please insure the funds are "in da bank". Hate to see you write a check your skills can't cash..
04-27-2006, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr.G
Part of my cash was made from my skills , so don't worry ive got skills that in your wildest dreams you can't match. real driver skills ....not 1/4 stupid run. by the way can Alberto knows how to use the stirring wheel??
Danny (thinks DR G's skills do not include spelling)
04-27-2006, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
Somebody said it earlier and its true, nobody needs to insult Dr. G because he does a good job of doing it on his own.
04-27-2006, 12:48 PM
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Stillen
I have seen a stillen supercharged G 35 run 12.8 at the track.......im neutral here I dont have Turbonetics or Stillen....but I have seen it with my own eyes........dunno what other mods the guy had or what kind of tires he was running. IMHO a good driver at the drag strip can make a slow car faster, there is real skill to getting a good time at the track. It seems to me the more HP you have the better driver you had better be or a car with lower HP numbers will beat you. There are alot of extra things you have to deal with when more HP comes into play.
04-27-2006, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by sentry65
My NA Z had a 50+whp gain and lost weight, while a stillen stage 2 gives you about the same power gain and gains weight
Until then quit BSing.
04-27-2006, 03:42 PM
#254
Originally Posted by chimmike
Dr. G.........we want proof, is all. If you want to make claims of horsepower, you can, but without anything to back it up, nobody will pay attention.
Oh, and if you ever decide to bring your car to the USA, come to FL and I'll smoke you with my TN kit
Oh, and if you ever decide to bring your car to the USA, come to FL and I'll smoke you with my TN kit
http://www.sah2o.com/russ/scmean1.htm
Out of the box kits.
ATI vs Stillen vs Vortech. All same dyno, same day, same test procedure and conditions. Stillen made the most MEAN power which is the most important thing when talking about who will win a race.
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04-27-2006, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by G35_TX
50whp from bolt ons? I seriously doubt that. Please shwo the stock dyno and the latest one without your FI unit.
Until then quit BSing.
Until then quit BSing.
not a problem, call dynocomp @ 480-596-0500 and if he's not busy ask Rich to look up the NA Z that made 272.1whp on their dynodynamics dyno when every other stock z makes around 220. Ask him about the stillen SC Z that made 27x whp
Otherwise I've been to two other dynos - both dynojet. I don't have a base dyno, but there's been several other cars that have dynoed stock on those dynos.
At the Intense Motorsports dyno day, many stock cars were pulling 230-235 bone stock. My car that day pulled I think a 281. About 4 months earlier I did 286whp (not as hot outside)
I also dynoed a long time ago - year and a half ago at AZ Dynochip with Keith. I made I think 281whp there. He said the stock cars were in the "mid 230's". At one point I was detonating with I guess some bad gas and a lean tune at 271whp, but obviously my car wasn't working right back then.
I dunno what else to say.....what else can I possibly do to prove it? I still have a few dyno print outs here and there. You really think it's impossible to gain around 50rwhp NA?
my NA power mods were:
Technosquare ECU flash
Greddy Emanage Ultimate
JWT cams
SSV manifold
JWT popcharger
350EVO throttlebody
Crawford headers
crawford cats
JIC Y pipe
Nismo exhaust
UR pulley
tilton clutch
light weight wheels, tires, rotors, etc
Originally Posted by G35_TX
http://www.sah2o.com/russ/Russ%201.xls
Out of the box kits.
ATI vs Stillen vs Vortech. All same dyno, same day, same test procedure and conditions. Stillen made the most MEAN power which is the most important thing when talking about who will win a race.
Out of the box kits.
ATI vs Stillen vs Vortech. All same dyno, same day, same test procedure and conditions. Stillen made the most MEAN power which is the most important thing when talking about who will win a race.
this is the data from the sport Z article almost 2 years ago. The vortech was detonating and some of the base maps were later tweaked by vortech and ATI.
Last edited by sentry65; 04-27-2006 at 04:45 PM.
04-27-2006, 04:43 PM
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No sir, you prove with your dyno info. I don't need to call anyone. You make a huyge claim for 50rwhp from just bolt ons. I want to see proof of this.
No base dyno then you have no idea if you gained a so called 50 hp.
How do you know the Vortech was having a problem? Were you there? Sport Z magazine takes everything in account. They know how to dyno cars for comparison tests unlike you and your magazine racing #s.
Like I said, prove it to us with YOUR DYNO GRAPHS.I don't want to hear what you made, I want to seee stock dyno and your aftermarket dyno. If you don't have it then don't say you gained 50rwhp. Because you didn't.
I have done enough research on the Vq for 10 years to know that there is no way possible you can gain 50rwhp from just bolt ons on this engine period.
No base dyno then you have no idea if you gained a so called 50 hp.
How do you know the Vortech was having a problem? Were you there? Sport Z magazine takes everything in account. They know how to dyno cars for comparison tests unlike you and your magazine racing #s.
Like I said, prove it to us with YOUR DYNO GRAPHS.I don't want to hear what you made, I want to seee stock dyno and your aftermarket dyno. If you don't have it then don't say you gained 50rwhp. Because you didn't.
I have done enough research on the Vq for 10 years to know that there is no way possible you can gain 50rwhp from just bolt ons on this engine period.
Originally Posted by sentry65
not a problem, call dynocomp @ 480-596-0500 and ask Rich to look up the NA Z that made 272.1whp on their dynodynamics dyno when every other stock z makes around 220. Ask him about the stillen SC Z that made 27x whp
Otherwise I've been to two other dynos - both dynojet. I don't have a base dyno, but there's been several other cars that have dynoed stock on those dynos.
At the Intense Motorsports dyno day, many stock cars were pulling 230-235 bone stock. My car that day pulled I think a 281. About 4 months earlier I did 286whp (not as hot outside)
I also dynoed a long time ago - year and a half ago at AZ Dynochip with Keith. I made I think 281whp there. He said the stock cars were in the "mid 235's". At one point I was detonating with I guess some bad gas and a lean tune at 271whp, but obviously my car wasn't working right back then.
I dunno what else to say.....what else can I possibly do to prove it? I still have a few print outs...
my power mods were:
Technosquare ECU flash
Greddy Emanage Ultimate
JWT cams
SSV manifold
JWT popcharger
350EVO throttlebody
Crawford headers
crawford cats
JIC Y pipe
Nismo exhaust
UR pulley
tilton clutch
light weight wheels, tires, rotors, etc
this is the data from the sport Z article almost 2 years ago. The vortech was detonating and some of the base maps were later tweaked by vortech and ATI.
Otherwise I've been to two other dynos - both dynojet. I don't have a base dyno, but there's been several other cars that have dynoed stock on those dynos.
At the Intense Motorsports dyno day, many stock cars were pulling 230-235 bone stock. My car that day pulled I think a 281. About 4 months earlier I did 286whp (not as hot outside)
I also dynoed a long time ago - year and a half ago at AZ Dynochip with Keith. I made I think 281whp there. He said the stock cars were in the "mid 235's". At one point I was detonating with I guess some bad gas and a lean tune at 271whp, but obviously my car wasn't working right back then.
I dunno what else to say.....what else can I possibly do to prove it? I still have a few print outs...
my power mods were:
Technosquare ECU flash
Greddy Emanage Ultimate
JWT cams
SSV manifold
JWT popcharger
350EVO throttlebody
Crawford headers
crawford cats
JIC Y pipe
Nismo exhaust
UR pulley
tilton clutch
light weight wheels, tires, rotors, etc
this is the data from the sport Z article almost 2 years ago. The vortech was detonating and some of the base maps were later tweaked by vortech and ATI.
04-27-2006, 04:53 PM
#260
Originally Posted by G35_TX
No sir, you prove with your dyno info. I don't need to call anyone. You make a huyge claim for 50rwhp from just bolt ons. I want to see proof of this.
No base dyno then you have no idea if you gained a so called 50 hp..
No base dyno then you have no idea if you gained a so called 50 hp..
Originally Posted by G35_TX
How do you know the Vortech was having a problem? Were you there? Sport Z magazine takes everything in account. They know how to dyno cars for comparison tests unlike you and your magazine racing #s...
http://www.sportzmagazine.com/images...tech_Chart.gif
they said it was detonating and jerking back and forth on the dyno. Enough said
Originally Posted by G35_TX
Like I said, prove it to us with YOUR DYNO GRAPHS.I don't want to hear what you made, I want to seee stock dyno and your aftermarket dyno. If you don't have it then don't say you gained 50rwhp. Because you didn't..
Originally Posted by G35_TX
I have done enough research on the Vq for 10 years to know that there is no way possible you can gain 50rwhp from just bolt ons on this engine period.
Last edited by sentry65; 04-27-2006 at 04:56 PM.