Made in China is not such a bad thing anymore... They have all of the state of the art equipment and if you have good specs, inspection processes, and process control you can really capitalize on the cheap labor. Today, the equipment and materials are pretty much the same worldwide; it's the labor, unions, and cost of doing business that kills you in the states from a manufacturing perspective.

 

hmm...

http://pw.gtmotorsports.com/manufacturers/eagle.html

 

ive seen the GTm motorsport rods didnt konw they where related. They are done by some company in Austrailia. actually ill run pauter instead with EDArias

 

did you even look at the link? it was a write up on eagle rods

and regarding the gtm rods..they GUARANTEE they will handle 2000hp on a vq35...they will hand you a gold plated motor if you snap a rod within those power levels

 

Im sure they are good..... But i got a free set of pauters =)

 

is VRT using Eagle in the one G35?

 

I'm not saying that eagle is a bad rod, what I am trying to advocate to you is that there not in the same league as far as performance.

Why is it that you don't see eagle rods in 6 and 7 sec cars. Hell I don't even see them in 8 sec cars. If you asked any professional engine builder which rod they would prefer on a built motor, 95% would not recommend eagle rods

Like I said before, I witnessed a blown motor on the dyno where the rods went through the block of a 2jz motor.

 

Ive also heard of eagles warping on a sr20, but there are alot of factors at play in every setup

 

I have also witnessed a stock block Supra make over 900whp on the dyno. Are you trying to say that Eagle rods are weaker than the stock Supra rods? Their is way more to it than just the rod say the tuning? Unless you do destructive testing on them then you won't know what they can or cannot handle. All this second hand info is crap. Frankly if you aren't an engine builder or high end machinist, then you're just talking out of your a$$. So I guess I'm talking out of my a$$. What you are saying doesn't make a convincing argument.

 

like said b4 there are alot of factors at play. good info though

 

Check the supraforums under eagle rods. They can attest that the eagle rods are subpar to the pauters. The bolts that they use for the eagle have been known to let go past 800hp

 

how many of us has 800hp or even dreaming about 800hp on a street car?

these supra motors that are snapping them are around there.. sure. But honestly, for 500-600whp, does it matter at all?

Let's not compare our cars to 6-7-8 second drag race cars. That doesn't make sense to me. Sure, the safer the better. I don't disagree with that..

 

The original question was, "Highest hp on eagles rods" correct. So to me this does have some correlation to what I was saying.

Why can't we compare 6,7 and 8 sec drag cars to this topic. To me that shows durability and stregth, two components that I look for in a rod.

There are more and more people building motors for 700rwhp plus. Granted it might not be the norm, but people are doing it.

 

I believe that one of the sponsor shops on the board has already addressed a comment regarding the bolts. If I remember right, Eagle changed the bolt and now uses an ARP rod bolt that many other manufacturers use for their rods.

 

http://www.clubcobra.com/t38005.html

 

Despite the "Highest hp on Eagle rods" question, the more accurate question is will the Eagle Rods allow me to go to the level of power that I want. The answer to that question will obviously depend on each person's goals.

On another note, I have friends in the domestic market running the Eagle rods at numbers greater than 650 rwhp. If someone is not comfortable using the Eagles, they are free to use something else. It's funny to me how many people buy into all the BS and use a rod that can take 1200 rwhp or something when 99% of the people here do not plan to nor will see 700 plus anytime soon. If someone thinks that using pauter rods or another rod is going to allow them to see 700, 800 etc rwhp, they need to remember that there are numerous other things that are needed to even think of getting that far.

In my case, for example, the Eagle Rods will work just fine because I plan on using a 525 or so map, a 600-625 or so map, then possibly getting a map on race gas toward the end of summer to venture in the 700 rwhp mark. I'll likely drive the Z around on the 525 map most of the time. A lot of other things are needed for big numbers. Personally, I've purchased a built long block with darton sleeves, ported heads, 5 angle valve job, JWT cams, cometic hg's, Weisco pistons with ceramic coating on tops and skirts (Thanks to Kyle at ImportPartsPro) and have also purchased the upgraded 1/2 axles, ATS triple disc carbon clutch, ATS carbon LSD, koyo radiator, nismo thermostat, crawford plenum, radiator breather tank, block breather/oil tank, AAM fuel return, 750 cc injectors, UTEC, 3 inch exhaust from SVRT, electric water pump with thermostatic controller and other stuff I'm sure that I'm forgetting. For my power goals and uses, one of the last things I'm worried about is an Eagle rod letting go.

 

Obviously you have spent alot of time and effort into your project and I wish you the best of luck. But I do not understand why you would have a built bottom end with sleeves and install Eagle rods. I see that you purchased $2000 dollar clutch, $1000+lsd, $1200+cams(which are not necessary for 600rwhp) but yet you wouldn't spend the extra money on proven and reliable rods.

Please do not take my criticism about your setup personal. I wish I had the ability to tell you that I haven't heard any bad experiences with eagle rods. Did you atleast upgrade the rod bolts?

 

Trust me, it has nothing to do with the money or cost difference from one rod to the other. The Eagle rods are sufficient for my purposes. They have the ARP rod bolts. I've relied on experts in the field and friends that have used the Eagles.

Just so you know, I did have the Pauter rods before for this car, but did not use them. Instead, I sold them to a friend that blew up his motor and needed the rods right away for his rebuild. To me, Pauter, Carrillo, etc. rods are good rods capable of probably a 1000 rwhp plus, but lets just say that (in my opinion) that's like walking around the streets in a NASA space suit when never intending to, nor having the means to, travel to the moon Why wear a space suit if it isn't needed

 

Choosing a forged rod is very much personal preference. I am still waiting for someone to break ANY forged rod on the VQ35. I can almost guaratee that if you break one, it will not be becuase of the mechanical weakness of the rod, but rather, some bad tuning, detonation, damaged pistons, or oil issue. Building an engine is an expensive and time consuming process. Most people select the parts that have long track records of success, but that doesnt mean that lesser used rods are any worse.

I am sure you'll be fine Yancy.

 

rods will rarely ever fail due to excessive hp, it is mostly the tuning that will do it. power creates a compressive force on the rod, making it VERY hard to bend any rod. the issues come mostly in rpm's, where the rod literally is trying to rip itself apart. true, stock VQ rods would never hold 800+rwhp even if the tune is conservative, but hopefully you can see my point.
i have run eagles in some of my V-8's and never had a problem. even on long stroke high rpm motors. the weights were all really close too, which shows abit of good workmanship in the forgings.