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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 05:55 AM
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Well I decided to remove my engine thinking it would make the instl of the greddy kit easyier. Well it did, once the engine was out it tool less than 2 hour to get every thing off and the turbo manifolds lines and turbos on. but the only probleme i have now is installing the motor back into the car. The oupt put shafte (dont know the correct term) on the transmaission seems to line up with the hole in the pressure plate and clutch but once there together it wont go all the way in. there is like a 2inch gap between the motor and transmission and it wont budge. is there any speacial way this is to be done?
should i just remove the transmission from the car and bolt it on the motor then reinstall?


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S14s are such an easier car to work with.
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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 06:01 AM
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get 2 tranny bolts in 1 on each side and use an impact to push the 2 together. i had the same problem.
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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 06:12 AM
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PM Punish_her ... He had the same problem and had to angle the rear of the car upward on a jack to get it to go back in correctly.
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Well I decided to remove my engine thinking it would make the instl of the greddy kit easyier. Well it did, once the engine was out it tool less than 2 hour to get every thing off and the turbo manifolds lines and turbos on. but the only probleme i have now is installing the motor back into the car. The oupt put shafte (dont know the correct term) on the transmaission seems to line up with the hole in the pressure plate and clutch but once there together it wont go all the way in. there is like a 2inch gap between the motor and transmission and it wont budge. is there any speacial way this is to be done?
should i just remove the transmission from the car and bolt it on the motor then reinstall?


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S14s are such an easier car to work with.
this goes back to the comment you just made about pulling the motor without the tranny connected...this was one of my main points I failed to mention, it is MUCH easier getting the motor and tranny back in the car once they are first connected/mated out of the car..

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this goes back to the comment you just made about pulling the motor without the tranny connected...this was one of my main points I failed to mention, it is MUCH easier getting the motor and tranny back in the car once they are first connected/mated out of the car..

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+1, it's also easier to get it out too. You don't have to disconnect all those little sensors on the trans, don't have to remove the starter, and don't have to access all of those bolts holding the two together. Not that any of that is really HARD, but it's tedious.
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+1, it's also easier to get it out too. You don't have to disconnect all those little sensors on the trans, don't have to remove the starter, and don't have to access all of those bolts holding the two together. Not that any of that is really HARD, but it's tedious.
I know but the ting is I already have the motor out with every thing installed i just need to put it back in. should I just take the tranny off and bolt it back to the motor out of the car?
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I know but the ting is I already have the motor out with every thing installed i just need to put it back in. should I just take the tranny off and bolt it back to the motor out of the car?
I probably would. It'll be super easy to pull the tranny out and bolt them together outside of the car.
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get 2 tranny bolts in 1 on each side and use an impact to push the 2 together. i had the same problem.

Be really careful with this approach. A 2 inch gap sounds like the splines arent lined up cleanly. Use of the impact gun in this scenario will probably ruin your input shaft.

It takes a bit of jiggling of the motor to get it on. Another trick is to have someone rotate your drive shaft slightly each way, so you can feel when the splines are lined up correctly.

As others mentioned, the easier thing to do...is drop the tranny down, and mount the tranny and engine together. Then slide the entire unit back into the car.
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true, when i did it, there was less than an inch of gap. it was just because i couldnt physically push and twist it in plus the angles werent perfect. i got somebody to push up the rear of the tranny while i used the delicate impact technique.
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true, when i did it, there was less than an inch of gap. it was just because i couldnt physically push and twist it in plus the angles werent perfect. i got somebody to push up the rear of the tranny while i used the delicate impact technique.
Exactly..when you need to draw the tranny in, for the last 1/2 inch or so...a gentle impact wrench, or a normal socket wrench works great.
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It might be obvious but are the wastegates installed?
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no gus im not that dumb but i took the transmission out. and bolted it on the the motor. ill put it back in tomorrow. o and gus how much do you guys charge to tune? Is running just the kit on greddy preprogramed tune safe?
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Is running just the kit on greddy preprogramed tune safe?
ABSOLUTELY NOT!

Greddy is famous for having one of the worst out of the box tunes

Don't even drive past 3,000rpm on that motor until you get it tuned!
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no gus im not that dumb but i took the transmission out. and bolted it on the the motor. ill put it back in tomorrow. o and gus how much do you guys charge to tune? Is running just the kit on greddy preprogramed tune safe?

LOL just checking

I think it is safe to run on the stock tune if you run the stock boost, it will be super rich, assuming this is Brandon's former kit he ran like that for a while, and we have had other run like that as well. I think most of the blown engines with Greddy stock kit have been install issues like wastgate connections and hoses.

I wouldn't go up in boost without a tune or addressing timing, cost of a tune depends on what you have, ie just fuel or fuel and timing and whether timings is through Emanage or J&S Safeguard, also suggest going withpressure sensor to tune emanage.
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ABSOLUTELY NOT!

Greddy is famous for having one of the worst out of the box tunes

Don't even drive past 3,000rpm on that motor until you get it tuned!
I couldnt agree more. Without some timing reduction, that basic tune is unsafe. There have been instances where people drove the basic Greddy tune around the block, and damaged their motors.
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Originally Posted by 350zDCalb
ABSOLUTELY NOT!

Greddy is famous for having one of the worst out of the box tunes

Don't even drive past 3,000rpm on that motor until you get it tuned!
I couldnt agree more. Without some timing reduction, that basic tune is unsafe. There have been instances where people drove the basic Greddy tune around the block, and damaged their motors.
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
Be really careful with this approach. A 2 inch gap sounds like the splines arent lined up cleanly. Use of the impact gun in this scenario will probably ruin your input shaft.

It takes a bit of jiggling of the motor to get it on. Another trick is to have someone rotate your drive shaft slightly each way, so you can feel when the splines are lined up correctly.

As others mentioned, the easier thing to do...is drop the tranny down, and mount the tranny and engine together. Then slide the entire unit back into the car.

+1 never use an impact to draw the trans and engine together. i stick the trans in gear (doesn't matter which one but 1st is best) and rotate the driveshaft to line the splines up. then tighten all the trans bolts with a wrench to make sure there is no binding till they seat up.
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dont say +1 and never, sharif didnt say that, he just said not with a 2 inch gap. as long as the splines are lined up, using an impact is fine and with a gap of less than an inch, the splines are already in line.
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I've always been able to man-handle the tranny until it is fully mated with the motor...but then again, I'm probably stronger than you guys
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probably.
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