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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 03:59 PM
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First off, no one said anything about overdriving stock sized injectors. Second I feel it is more reliable than the Greddy because I personally have not heard of anyone blowing their engine with this kit and I personally blew my engine with the Greddy kit.
I'm tired of hearing the same old thing. This kit blew my engine, that kit blew my engine. Listen up guys......it's not the kit that blew your engine. Its the state of tune (or lack of) and possibly too much boost. Whatever kit you get you'll need a good tune. Don't blame the blown engine on this kit or that, you should blame yourself for not doing it the right way



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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by trefling
I'm tired of hearing the same old thing. This kit blew my engine, that kit blew my engine. Listen up kids......it's not the kit that blew your engine. Its the state of tune (or lack of) and possibly too much boost. Whatever kit you get you'll need a good tune. Don't blame the blown engine on this kit or that, you should blame yourself for not doing it the right way


I agree with you....I will tell you that when I bought that car I did not know anything about turbos and engines, well that was a little over two years ago, and I bought the car with the Greddy on it. It blew after 550 miles, I think because lack of tune. I was not a happy camper.

I will tell you this after I had the whole engine stripped down and rebuilt I had the car tuned by one of the best here on the West Coast, Church Automotive. After that my car was totalled and I bought a new one and had it done by VRT and I will tell you that this car drives sooooooo much better than the last! That is why I will take that kit over the Greddy.

As far as the tune being VERY important I agree.....maybe the reason I have not heard of the JWT kit being on a blown engine is becuase the guys building and installing these setups are doing a great job, I know that VRT is.
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by trefling
I'm tired of hearing the same old thing. This kit blew my engine, that kit blew my engine. Listen up kids......it's not the kit that blew your engine. Its the state of tune (or lack of) and possibly too much boost. Whatever kit you get you'll need a good tune. Don't blame the blown engine on this kit or that, you should blame yourself for not doing it the right way



By the way I am not a KID....sorry if I did not explain myself better to begin with again. No need to get aggressive.
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by trefling
Take a ride in a built engine with a Greddy twin turbo then try the same thing with the TN kit...I think it will change your mind
Well, then I can tell you it for SURE wont change my mind.. I think you're the one not understanding the TN's possibilities. I love single turbos, but I also hate lag.. fortunately with a T66 you get both high numbers, good spool up, and the properties of a big single (big-*** KICK in the back)

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Well IMO and not even including the Greddy TT kit there are a lot better choices on the market for a 350z than the turbonetics st. I am not saying the Turbonetics is a POS, but there are better choices.
I think you're wrong.. I honestly think the TN is the best setup available for the Z atm(T60, T66, or even higher - whatever your goals are). But I guess its all about diff. taste.
If you like the feminine characteristics of two small snails, then I guess the TN ST isnt for you ......... (j/k)
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 04:39 PM
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From what I've seen/heard I think the APS TT kit ownz all
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 04:39 PM
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I think you're the one not understanding the TN's possibilities.
Dude you are soooo wrong, due to the TN exaust manifold design it will never see the power of the Greddy kit or the JWT kit. But yes it's still pretty sweet, but the design itself will never to able to compete the prior mentioned kits
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 04:41 PM
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I'd take the APS TT over the greddy any day, thats for sure
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 04:41 PM
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By the way I am not a KID

Sorry Sir
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 04:42 PM
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Greddy all the way!


SGP likes it best, AlteredAtmosphere likes it best. Sharif @ Forged has one too. Anyone else I forgot to mention?
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 04:43 PM
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trefling, how much the stock headers will flow havent really been tried yet. However, what on earth stops you from putting on headers with the TN?

Dude, you're the one who's wrong
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by KDW2002
trefling, how much the stock headers will flow havent really been tried yet. However, what on earth stops you from putting on headers with the TN?

Dude, you're the one who's wrong IMO
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 04:47 PM
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trefling, I'm sure you will think alot more of the TN in the future, when +600whp single monsters starts to pop up..
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 04:47 PM
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Of course less people are blowing engines on JWT Kits.. there is a reason for that..

1) 100% of JWT Kits are being installed by the best tuners in the US (VRT, AAM, Performance Motorsports.. etc)
2) A lot of the JWT Kits are being installed on Built Engines
3) Not that many people are running JWT Kits

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You can find at least 2 - 3 Installers for Greddy Kits in Most States... in the small state of CT we have about 5..... I called one of the distributors on Greddy's site and i asked them how many installs they have done... they told me 1.

Now JWT is smart.. they have their kits in the hands of proffessionals... Greddy has their product in the hands of anyone who is willing to sell it.. so duh.. of course you will have more blown Greddy Kits.
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by KDW2002
trefling, I'm sure you will think alot more of the TN in the future, when +600whp single monsters starts to pop up..
don't get sucked into the whole single turbo monster thing from the Supra Boys.. its just something the dyno queens like to quote..

here you go:

500 hp Viper walks 800 hp Supra

http://www.reverseshocker.com/videos/june_17_racing.wmv

you want to know why?

look at the dyno charts..

Supra



Viper




what do you notice? the Supra doesn't even get close to the Viper's hp until about 5500 rpms... what is the use in that? so you can drive around and tell everyone your car makes 800 hp? while you get walked by a 600 hp TTZ?
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 04:54 PM
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That supra is basically like a Honda, nothing until the VTEC switchover
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 05:18 PM
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doug thats due to big LAG.. You wont get that much lag with a T66.

And even with a lagging setup like that you can still run WAY better than this car does. You'll just have to keep it in the boost which there are numerous ways to do. a BIG single needs to be driven different than a smaller TT setup.
otherwise how would you explain 9sec passes in a single supra?
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 05:25 PM
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just watched the vid.. Are you f.cking kidding me!?!?
How can you even post that vid as an argument for your case. The guy in the supra is a damn joke. He doesnt know how to launch. He bogs every run - launch a low compression/big single turbo'd car like that and grandmother will smoke you in her punto! Dude, c'mon
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 05:29 PM
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lol
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by KDW2002
However, what on earth stops you from putting on headers with the TN?
Ask all the people with Turbonetics ST who tried installing headers with their kit what they think about using after market header with the TN ST.

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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by trefling
you should blame yourself for not doing it the right way


And the right way is not overdriving stock injectors regardless of the state of tune...
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