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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 02:15 PM
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Corner3 garage quoted $1000 for install of the vortech kit on my '05 G35 6mt. I've heard good things about these guys in this forum but they have not done a vortech install to date. What are your opinions on this? The shop seems reputable and they have a NIssan master tech but no experience with the vortech kit.

Also, their hourly rate is $75/hr, which puts this job at roughly 13 hours. Is that a fair estimate?
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 02:52 PM
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I encourage anyone to install their own parts. Saves money and you learn a ton about your own car.

It will most likely take them a minimum of a day to complete the install especially if they have never done one.
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 03:14 PM
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+1 on installing your own....I did mine 2 years ago

What other mods do you have? What else are you installing with the Vortech?
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 03:21 PM
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I'm not totally against installing myself but how hard would it be? I currently do all the oil changes to my cars, changed brakes, installed exhaust and lowering springs before, but never something this involved. I do have a garage and air tools

Can anyone point me to where I can get a G35 service manual? Certain steps such as removing the front bumper, oil pan, belts, etc... is what is discouraging me from attempting.
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 03:38 PM
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You Can Do It!!!!
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 03:41 PM
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You Can Do It!!!!
+1, the scariest thing is drilling your oil pan.
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 03:49 PM
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Piece of cake ---study the Vortech Install manual for a day or two. U will need an extra set of hands --preferably experienced hands. U will need an angle drill to plumb into the block for oil dump. And highly recommend the harness to plug the SS box into ur onboard computer. Soldering and cutting wires can get a little intense for a first timer.----Save a Grand and use it for gages etc
Nother thing ---- silicone or epoxy those pesky spacers behind the mounting bracket. Routing ur water hose and trying to keep them in chk is a ***** !

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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 07:51 PM
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Yes +1 to the advice of experienced folks here. Study the manual in depth and ensure you have all the tools and supplies (and a little more wouldnt hurt just in case) on hand. The autosport harness will make the EMS integration a snap. Solder the SS box to it while you sit on a sofa drinking beer/margarita/latte, cant loose! I would go with doing it yourself over someone else who is also un-experienced with the kit install it. You can always call Sharif/MRC/AAM/GTM or whoever for some help, but who will the garage call? Nissan? I did mine myself and it was fun at times and a pita at times, but worht it in the end. then you know that you have done things right, and you are alot more intimate (yes i said intimate ) with your car, so if something comes up you will be better informed to deal with it. I did mine in about 12-14 hours using hand tools. I used a spacer for the oil line instead of tapping block, no probs. I just traded my z in today End rant
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 08:32 PM
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I just did a Turbonetics install by meyself on my garage floor using only a pair of ramps. Yes, it was alot more of a PITA than reading the manual made it out to be. I have great tools (Snap-ON), air tools, and lots of assorted specialty tools. I found myself having to pick up some extra special tools to compelte this install. But, the tN install is much harder than the Vortech install. Half way through the TN install, I was thinking to myself...." I shoud've bought a Vortech!"
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 08:35 PM
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PM protocav on this forum or email him at protocav@hotmail.com He can prolly help you out with that install. He's done like 3 so far.
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 08:48 PM
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I got your back Dave!!! we can do this

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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by QuadCam
I just did a Turbonetics install by meyself on my garage floor using only a pair of ramps. Yes, it was alot more of a PITA than reading the manual made it out to be. I have great tools (Snap-ON), air tools, and lots of assorted specialty tools. I found myself having to pick up some extra special tools to compelte this install. But, the tN install is much harder than the Vortech install. Half way through the TN install, I was thinking to myself...." I shoud've bought a Vortech!"
I remember saying "I should have had someone install this!" Would have been easier if I had a lift
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 03:14 AM
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Iv done the TNs also and ya they are a little more difficult but things fit better than the Vortechs. I run Solo so not having that extra set of hands is a little hinderance but have found that extra set is sometimes more of a hinderance. Go for it! and answers to probs are just a Post away.
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ZU L8R
+1, the scariest thing is drilling your oil pan.
Just get an oil pan spacer and that problem is solved.
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by THE TECH
Just get an oil pan spacer and that problem is solved.

According to Vortech, you should NOT use that method since it places the return below the oil level. This is precisely the reason that AAM does not offer a return kit for the Vortech kit.
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 07:16 AM
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According to Vortech, you should NOT use that method since it places the return below the oil level. This is precisely the reason that AAM does not offer a return kit for the Vortech kit.
That can't be correct. The level of the oil in the oil pan is not higher than the top of the oil pan. When you add a spacer to the mix, it increases the distance from the top of the oil pan.
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 07:19 AM
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That can't be correct. The level of the oil in the oil pan is not higher than the top of the oil pan. When you add a spacer to the mix, it increases the distance from the top of the oil pan.
Yes, it is. The spacer goes at the bottom of the oil pan between the pan and the black cover plate.

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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by teh215
Yes, it is. The spacer goes at the bottom of the oil pan between the pan and the black cover plate.

Are you sure about that? I'm not FI yet so I can't say for certain but I've heard different.
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Havok_RLS2
Are you sure about that? I'm not FI yet so I can't say for certain but I've heard different.
Yes that is where the spacer is and yes, you should not use that to tap for a Vortech oil return. You can either call Vortech to confirm or search for the AAM Oil spacer thread where they did their initial group buy. I alerted them, they confirmed with Vortech and pulled the Vortech spacer from thier lineup. They posted it in the thread that Vortech said not to use a spacer.
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by teh215
Yes that is where the spacer is and yes, you should not use that to tap for a Vortech oil return. You can either call Vortech to confirm or search for the AAM Oil spacer thread where they did their initial group buy. I alerted them, they confirmed with Vortech and pulled the Vortech spacer from thier lineup. They posted it in the thread that Vortech said not to use a spacer.
The problem is that your picture proves what I am saying. The stock oil pan is moved lower when you add the spacer. This means that the oil in the pan is BELOW the spacer.
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