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Old 09-09-2006, 08:59 AM
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Very Sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!



yeah, you rock dood!!
Old 09-09-2006, 09:26 AM
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SSWWEEETT Great numbers.
Old 09-09-2006, 09:27 AM
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Yes. For sale. Only 4000 miles on the car. 3000 on the built engine. Complete turn key. Needs nothing. Well balanced street/track car. Not over done (well, just a little). IMHO, the car is better than new. Call or come to the shop if your truely interested.

$60k

It's a bargain at that price. We have a G35 for our next project. It's gonna have a different set up.
Old 09-10-2006, 07:09 AM
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Nice job J those are some sick numbers I can wait to get mine doen in the next couple of weeks.
Old 09-10-2006, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by USED
As far as safe limits go, we're only running 16 degrees of timing at 18 psi @ full song and 14 degrees with the race fuel
You have that backwards? Your going to run more advanced timing with race fuel most of the time, or at least keep it the same with more boost and not have to retard timing more....
Old 09-10-2006, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by USED
Yes. For sale. Only 4000 miles on the car. 3000 on the built engine. Complete turn key. Needs nothing. Well balanced street/track car. Not over done (well, just a little). IMHO, the car is better than new. Call or come to the shop if your truely interested.

$60k

It's a bargain at that price. We have a G35 for our next project. It's gonna have a different set up.

Not taking nothing away from the car, but why so much for just a built shortblock. Could you give a run down on the list of modifications that you have done to the car. Exernally and internally. Thanx.
Old 09-10-2006, 10:40 AM
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Very well done guys, very well done.

Oh, what compression pistons and rods did you guys use?
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Originally Posted by Alberto
You have that backwards? Your going to run more advanced timing with race fuel most of the time, or at least keep it the same with more boost and not have to retard timing more....
Yea, that is definitely the usual, but we got crazy knock when we tried to advance with race gas. It was very wierd. The same thing happend before, when we had the standard Greddy wg location and used c16. We thought there was a problem with the fuel, but we put the same batch in a supra a few days later and ran like 20-22 deg with no problems.

I don't know if we just have a noisy engine or if the VQ's knock sensor is hyper sensitive (like the QR25). There's too much time in the car at this point to take a chance melting the pistons. Even with the low timing, the VQ pulled hard and made serious power. We were happy with the numbers.

We could have made more power/boost, but we pegged the Dynapack 4000 torque capacity (700) and didn't want to tune in 6th gear. It was late, we we're tired, I had to wash my hair, yada yada yada. I think the 18g's are happier at 18psi anyway.

Thanks for your input.
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Originally Posted by turismo
Not taking nothing away from the car, but why so much for just a built shortblock. Could you give a run down on the list of modifications that you have done to the car. Exernally and internally. Thanx.

It's way more than just a built bottom. Follow this link for most of the car specs:

http://carv2.com/site/project_detail.cfm?id=247
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Originally Posted by Enron Exec
Very well done guys, very well done.

Oh, what compression pistons and rods did you guys use?
8.5:1 CP XT Pro Pistons
Crower Pro Billet Rods

Our personal favorites. We have never experienced any problems with the above. We try to put them in everthing we build.
Old 09-10-2006, 01:06 PM
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Clean set up, awsome numbers!
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very nice...
Old 09-10-2006, 04:55 PM
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im sorry but i think those numbers are kinda weak, sorry but i am the first one to say that....


i know what you have done and the boost you are running, but it should be higher for sure
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Originally Posted by Audible Mayhem
im sorry but i think those numbers are kinda weak, sorry but i am the first one to say that....


i know what you have done and the boost you are running, but it should be higher for sure
Compared to what? How much higher?

We took it very easy on the tune. Safe and rich. It's a mainly a street car. We don't run street cars at their limits. We're looking for reliability and longevity also. You do know were still on stock cams/heads/plenum/ignition, right?

Shoot me some comparisons with specs and dyno charts. I'd like to see what others have made with the same/similar build. We're very happy with the car. It wasn't meant to be extreme. It was ment to be a turn key car that someone could enjoy for a very long time.
Old 09-10-2006, 07:10 PM
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very nice
Old 09-10-2006, 07:15 PM
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Great numbers. I looked at that Greddy awhile back and thought 18gs would be too big. What kind of lag do you get? I'm use to those on 3.0l, so that may be why. I never knew why Greddy supplied 440's with that kit... Are the 750's doing alright? What kind of temps are you seeing?
Old 09-10-2006, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Metatron
Great numbers. I looked at that Greddy awhile back and thought 18gs would be too big. What kind of lag do you get? I'm use to those on 3.0l, so that may be why. I never knew why Greddy supplied 440's with that kit... Are the 750's doing alright? What kind of temps are you seeing?
Dude, what lag?!

The engine makes full boost and torque by 3800-4000 rpm. It's sick! I'll post up dyno charts tomorrow on the website. Simply shreds the tires.

The 750cc RC's we're using are more than enough for our power level. We're only running 45 psi of static fuel pressure. Most others run around 50-55 psi. We decide to do so because RC engineering uses the traditional method of calculating their flow rates at 42.5 psi. When we projected our power and fuel needs, we kept those numbers in the equation. Also, we wanted use as small of an injector as possible without higher fuel pressures. This way part throttle/normal driving would be efficient and clean. It makes that part of tuning much easier. Under the higer boost numbers, we just tip into 90% duty at the very top.

Different manufacturers/size injectors respond differently, since we've used so many RC injectors over the years, we understand how they function.
Old 09-10-2006, 07:52 PM
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Wow. That is impressive. Recently the VR-4 guys have been installing 16gs. They don't even spool that fast. What's you're knock count on 93 octane?
Are you going to be making a drag pass anytime soon? What do you do for traction? What PSI in the tires?
Most importantly, how street-able is that beast? I was hoping to do a big 16g setup, but if lags that low on 18’s, I might as well go with them.
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Id hope his knock count is 0 with a safe tune...
Old 09-11-2006, 12:54 AM
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i guess with a really safe tune and stock cams the lower numbers are on but the 24 psi numbers would really disappoint me.


curious why you did all that and left stock cams??


sorry, i am not bashing or being mean, just giving my honest opinion. its hard to compare my numbers cause i have ported heads and old JWT cams.


how safe of a tune, what kinda peak tq and peak rev timing you running??

either way, keep it up!!


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