Notices
Forced Induction Turbochargers and Superchargers..Got Boost?

What Other Manufacturers Turbo's Will Fit The Turbonetics Stage 1

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-03-2006 | 05:17 PM
  #41  
rocks's Avatar
rocks
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,396
Likes: 2
From: hobbs nm
Default

2" pipe for the crossover is more than big enough for over 800hp at the crank (if you go over 2" you get lag on the crossover). A turbo v8 only uses a 2" crossover pipe for around 800hp, the biggest is 2.5".If you do the volumetric effiency calculations for the vq35de a GT35r will support over 600whp, this turbo will make power all the way to the redline. I would recomend at least a 4-4.5" exhaust for that power on a single turbo setup. Or you could go all out and use a holset hx35/40 hybrid, these have titanium wheels and are designed to spin backwards, they do not break. Oil cooling only, so you also have less piping. Headers would be a good idea to use also.

Flanges are cheap http://motors.search.ebay.com/t3-flange_W0QQfromZR40

This will outflow a gt35r, the hx35 flows 9lbls per min less than the gt35r
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HTT-H...QQcmdZViewItem

If you want to do some research on people that are all about do it yourself check out the forums on www.turbomustangs.com and www.turboford.com - both of these forums will provide more information on turbocharging engines than you will ever get off of this forum. I used to build junkyard turbo cars, its fun outrunning someone in a 500$ car, that runs low 13s and looks like hell. I made the ricers cry, with my intercooler hanging out of the front of my grill between the headlights.

Last edited by rocks; 11-03-2006 at 05:23 PM.
Old 11-03-2006 | 05:31 PM
  #42  
JETPILOT's Avatar
JETPILOT
Thread Starter
New Member
iTrader: (51)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 6,319
Likes: 2
From: Vero Beach, FL
Default

The GT-K series turbo's won't be shipping until early January I have been told. I don't know if anyone realizes this..... the GT-K 550 turbos will be about $2300. That's a lot of money just for the turbo. And there will be no exchange/credit given for the people with stage 1 turbo's. So if there is a turbo that can get me where I want to be for less money I'm all over it!

JET
Old 11-03-2006 | 05:33 PM
  #43  
chimmike's Avatar
chimmike
Registered User
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 5,254
Likes: 0
From: Bradenton/Sarasota
Default

I saw the prices there and I must say, I cannot imagine they will remain that high for long, ESPECIALLY if they intend to compete directly with the garrett GT seriest turbos which cost half of that.
Old 11-03-2006 | 05:57 PM
  #44  
IIQuickSilverII's Avatar
IIQuickSilverII
New Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 14,613
Likes: 215
From: Arizona -InP-
Default

plus one... is that is the MSRP most likely the prices will be around 1600..i hope they give soem sort of credit to current stage 1 owners at least if they own the kit very very recently like me... so the price with trade in is around 1000+500 piping+700 new intercooler+a better wastegate and the upgrade to current custom 1.5 kits is around 2500
Old 11-03-2006 | 06:32 PM
  #45  
JETPILOT's Avatar
JETPILOT
Thread Starter
New Member
iTrader: (51)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 6,319
Likes: 2
From: Vero Beach, FL
Default

THERE WILL BE NO TRADE IN/EXCHANGE/CREDIT GIVEN. I said it before !!!!

JET
Old 11-03-2006 | 06:35 PM
  #46  
JETPILOT's Avatar
JETPILOT
Thread Starter
New Member
iTrader: (51)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 6,319
Likes: 2
From: Vero Beach, FL
Default

Which Garrett GT would be applicable for 575 BHP? That would have little lag and bolt up with little to no fabrication.

JET
Old 11-03-2006 | 06:38 PM
  #47  
IIQuickSilverII's Avatar
IIQuickSilverII
New Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 14,613
Likes: 215
From: Arizona -InP-
Default

JET... you will still not make it very far even with a bigger turbo... there are restrictions in the pipin man... maybe buy stage 2 piping and a different turbo..

even if they dont trade... 3k $is as high as i hope it woudl be for current custom stage 1.5 "users" to upgrade to stage 2....
Old 11-03-2006 | 06:41 PM
  #48  
JETPILOT's Avatar
JETPILOT
Thread Starter
New Member
iTrader: (51)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 6,319
Likes: 2
From: Vero Beach, FL
Default

Where are the facts the piping is the restriction? In my opinion it is directly related to the turbine A/R.

JET

Last edited by JETPILOT; 11-03-2006 at 06:43 PM.
Old 11-03-2006 | 07:13 PM
  #49  
IIQuickSilverII's Avatar
IIQuickSilverII
New Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 14,613
Likes: 215
From: Arizona -InP-
Default

ask D350Z10, he put a T66 and only got 525 with cams..... so a bigger turbo and only made really 40 more whp than you..the rest is the cams...

i have seen a custom kit and the tn kit, and from underneath you can see some of the piping being small..going from 3" to 2" in some areas...
Old 11-03-2006 | 07:31 PM
  #50  
redline350ZZ's Avatar
redline350ZZ
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 1,648
Likes: 0
From: Port Orchard, WA
Default

Originally Posted by IIQuickSilverII
ask D350Z10, he put a T66 and only got 525 with cams..... so a bigger turbo and only made really 40 more whp than you..the rest is the cams...

i have seen a custom kit and the tn kit, and from underneath you can see some of the piping being small..going from 3" to 2" in some areas...

Do you know if his curve pulled to 6500 tho?? cause if it didnt do the 5400 drop off thats almost reason alone to do T66. What was boost as well? Just curious if you know.
Old 11-03-2006 | 07:40 PM
  #51  
Ep3's Avatar
Ep3
Registered User
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 862
Likes: 0
From: Yonkers NY
Default

idk 2 much on the turbonetics specifics like pipe size ect. but like i said custom DP would be needed ..i also would like to see what stage 2 TN would be ... but i doubt it will be new pipes. then what was stage 1 for the BOV and wastegate? i havent been on in a while so i dont know but last i saw was talk of programable ems injectors and fuel system that jet already has (i think) but who knows it prolly is smartest to wait for its release before making big $ choices
Old 11-03-2006 | 07:48 PM
  #52  
IIQuickSilverII's Avatar
IIQuickSilverII
New Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 14,613
Likes: 215
From: Arizona -InP-
Default

Originally Posted by redline350ZZ
Do you know if his curve pulled to 6500 tho?? cause if it didnt do the 5400 drop off thats almost reason alone to do T66. What was boost as well? Just curious if you know.


he mad max hp at around 5400 as wel...

th stage 2 needs more than just a new waste gate intercooler and bigger turbo, it needs some new piping in some areas...
Old 11-03-2006 | 07:49 PM
  #53  
IIQuickSilverII's Avatar
IIQuickSilverII
New Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 14,613
Likes: 215
From: Arizona -InP-
Default

Originally Posted by Ep3
idk 2 much on the turbonetics specifics like pipe size ect. but like i said custom DP would be needed ..i also would like to see what stage 2 TN would be ... but i doubt it will be new pipes. then what was stage 1 for the BOV and wastegate? i havent been on in a while so i dont know but last i saw was talk of programable ems injectors and fuel system that jet already has (i think) but who knows it prolly is smartest to wait for its release before making big $ choices

stage 1 and stage 1.5(which is basicaly stage 1 with fuel upgrade and ems) the piping is the same......
Old 11-03-2006 | 08:12 PM
  #54  
JETPILOT's Avatar
JETPILOT
Thread Starter
New Member
iTrader: (51)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 6,319
Likes: 2
From: Vero Beach, FL
Default

I'm only looking to make 450-475whp and retain the OE powerband. TN stage II wil be designed with much more power in mind.

JET
Old 11-03-2006 | 08:13 PM
  #55  
IIQuickSilverII's Avatar
IIQuickSilverII
New Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 14,613
Likes: 215
From: Arizona -InP-
Default

yah... well jsut put a samller turbo and the stage 2 tn piping =]

or add cams... IMO cams will end up being your best friend for your goals, that plus a turbo ovbiously since you aint got one
Old 11-03-2006 | 08:59 PM
  #56  
NoLimit's Avatar
NoLimit
Registered User
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 270
Likes: 0
From: San Diego
Default

Originally Posted by JETPILOT
I'm only looking to make 450-475whp and retain the OE powerband. TN stage II wil be designed with much more power in mind.

JET
JET,
check your PM's
Old 11-03-2006 | 09:37 PM
  #57  
rocks's Avatar
rocks
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,396
Likes: 2
From: hobbs nm
Default

Send your t60 to majestic turbo or a place like that, have a bigger exhaust housing put on it and the wheel clipped. It will make more power up top. You people have to understand that to make power too 7200rpms your going to have lag, there is pretty much no way around it. Use a 2.5" up pipe and you should be good. Turbos are not expensive to rebuild.
Old 11-04-2006 | 12:44 AM
  #58  
MIAPLAYA's Avatar
MIAPLAYA
Registered User
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 11,373
Likes: 0
From: Escondido
Default

D35010 had a Stage V turbine still even though he had a T66 compressor. I don't even think he increased the A/R of the turbine housing. Yes the GT-K MSRP is that but that doesn't mean thats what the price from a dealer will be. If you are 100% dead set on getting a different turbo I encourage you to search your options. But I will say the Stage 2 kit and GT-K turbos are going to raise a lot of eye brows when they start getting installed.
Old 11-04-2006 | 05:50 AM
  #59  
IIQuickSilverII's Avatar
IIQuickSilverII
New Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 14,613
Likes: 215
From: Arizona -InP-
Default

Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
D35010 had a Stage V turbine still even though he had a T66 compressor. I don't even think he increased the A/R of the turbine housing. Yes the GT-K MSRP is that but that doesn't mean thats what the price from a dealer will be. If you are 100% dead set on getting a different turbo I encourage you to search your options. But I will say the Stage 2 kit and GT-K turbos are going to raise a lot of eye brows when they start getting installed.

damm man... 3 am and you were answering this...... i thoguth you would be partying like there is no tomorrow lol....


i agree with all.... on thing...is it true that there Turbonetics wont give any credit at all to upgrade to GTK from out current kits... i mean by the time GTK is out my turbo is going to be only 3 months old. =]
Old 11-04-2006 | 08:37 AM
  #60  
JETPILOT's Avatar
JETPILOT
Thread Starter
New Member
iTrader: (51)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 6,319
Likes: 2
From: Vero Beach, FL
Default

Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
D35010 had a Stage V turbine still even though he had a T66 compressor. I don't even think he increased the A/R of the turbine housing. Yes the GT-K MSRP is that but that doesn't mean thats what the price from a dealer will be. If you are 100% dead set on getting a different turbo I encourage you to search your options. But I will say the Stage 2 kit and GT-K turbos are going to raise a lot of eye brows when they start getting installed.
Why will it "raise alot of eye brows"? Your not giving me a reason to wait. With the information I have now there is no reason to get a GT-K over a Garrett GT series which is looking sweet and is available now!!! I'd like to go Turbonetics but I'm at the point where I need something in my car. I don't want to swap out the 60:1 and in a few months replace is again with a GT-K unless there is a really good reason.

JET

Last edited by JETPILOT; 11-04-2006 at 08:42 AM.


Quick Reply: What Other Manufacturers Turbo's Will Fit The Turbonetics Stage 1



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:06 PM.