Has anyone broke 500whp with an ST?
Originally Posted by rocks
The reason i like single turbos more is it is less complex and easier to install my self, as in the engine doesnt have to come out.
Haha i have just enough to do the motor. I bought the car in august, engine blew up the first month so i decided to build it rather than put a used engine in it. If i had another 8k$ to blow i would turbo it, sucks it has to wait. Im going to have a built engine and no turbo heh.
its 9:1 compression, ill just advance the timing as far as i can. I have thought about using a 200shot of nitrous with a digital controller untill i can afford a turbo. Should only lose about 15-20hp with it n/a. I orderd some headers for it and testpipes so that should give a little power back. I hope... Engine should be done and in the car next weekend. Todd at built z motors is doing it.
If someone can come up with a ST kit that can run turbos like the gt40r, gt42r or turbos in that size, you would see huge horsepower numbers. Also they wouldn't lag that much compared to other cars like supras or evos that have gt40r and gt42r since the VQ is 3.5L.
On jetpilot's defense, I am in his same shoes. I didnt get cams b/c theyre was really nothing very good out that was turbo specific when I built my motor. NOW, there finally releasing some options of turbo specific cams. AND I promise you their is no way if he puts cams in that he will make power till redline. The TN 60-1 just doesnt have the flow characteristics to do it.
Originally Posted by lemansz20
On jetpilot's defense, I am in his same shoes. I didnt get cams b/c theyre was really nothing very good out that was turbo specific when I built my motor. NOW, there finally releasing some options of turbo specific cams. AND I promise you their is no way if he puts cams in that he will make power till redline. The TN 60-1 just doesnt have the flow characteristics to do it.
By the way, a 60-1 compressor housing can flow PLENTY for that type of power on this car. The issue is with the T3 turbine housing, which, as stated, was selected for its spool characteristics for the intended power delivery of this kit. So far the only people that I know that have upgraded turbos with the kit have only upgraded the compressor housing, which won't get you too far.
I was waiting for the GT Motorsport cams to come out. They were a little too late in releasing their new FI cam. My heads were there @ GTM being built but the cams didn't make it in.
Why does everyone talk about making power to "redline". The car as delivered from Nissan doesn't make power to "redline". "Redline" is 6600 RPM on the non-rev up. The cams make power to 6250RPM. That is not "redline". I am glad I could clear that up.
My turbo is being exchanged for a warranty issue and I am having a custom spec turbo returned to me.
JET
Why does everyone talk about making power to "redline". The car as delivered from Nissan doesn't make power to "redline". "Redline" is 6600 RPM on the non-rev up. The cams make power to 6250RPM. That is not "redline". I am glad I could clear that up.
My turbo is being exchanged for a warranty issue and I am having a custom spec turbo returned to me.
JET
You kinda contradicted yourself here man. Is the turbine housing, NOT apart of the turbo??? I dont think so, so that makes it APART of the turbo. MEANING the turbo cant make the certain power on this motor. I know b/c I have the same problem, but Im waiting for the new gtk turbos. Ill be able to get the power I want without cams, and most likely just with this upgrade. FYI I was waiting for the turbo specific gt motorsports cams also. When the TN gtk stage 2 comes out, ill do headwork and cams simple as that.
Originally Posted by JETPILOT
I was waiting for the GT Motorsport cams to come out.
I'd be willing to bet they're similar to JWT S1 cams.
I'd also be willing to say I don't think there's any n/a specific cams on the market right now.......so why request something that says turbo specific?
Originally Posted by lemansz20
You kinda contradicted yourself here man. Is the turbine housing, NOT apart of the turbo??? I dont think so, so that makes it APART of the turbo. MEANING the turbo cant make the certain power on this motor. I know b/c I have the same problem, but Im waiting for the new gtk turbos.
No I didn't. I stated that if you had issues with the turbine housing not flowing adequately you could swap it out for a different housing. Go read my post again before trying to tell me I'm wrong without understanding the subject.
Originally Posted by lemansz20
Im not gonna start a stupid childish argument about a stupid turbo online. YOu go think what you want, and go make 600 hp with your 60-1. Good Luck.
You're just showing here that you know very little about turbochargers. I will never claim to be an expert on the subject personally, but at least understand the basics of it. Perhaps you should go back and read a few books before coming here and making claims about this "stupid turbo".
Fact is, that a 60-1 compressor mated with a T4 turbine housing and properly sized wheel will make well over 500whp on this motor.
I'm not going to attempt to make this kind of power on my car because:
A) My car makes good enough power on the stock motor with the turbo that's included in the kit.
B) I understood the power levels this kit was intended for upon purchasing it.
C) If I do want to go for more power I'll just wait until Turbonetics launches a properly designed system designed to handle it.
D) I possess a thing called "patience".
Thanks, but I'll continue subscribing to this thing called "reality", not just making blind assumptions based on what I read here.
PS: I'm not the one trying to make 500+whp on this turbo alone. You are.
Last edited by taurran; Nov 6, 2006 at 03:40 PM.
Originally Posted by lemansz20
Im not gonna start a stupid childish argument about a stupid turbo online. YOu go think what you want, and go make 600 hp with your 60-1. Good Luck.


