Turbonetics Turbo a 4 or 5 Bolt Turbine Housing?
11-06-2006, 07:13 PM
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A 60-1 compressor wheel from Turbonetics uses a 59 mm inducer and a 76mm major diameter. What you really need is to find out what size turbine wheel it is and what trim it is...
11-06-2006, 09:12 PM
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you can not compare the BorgWarner's S series compressor's turbo's measurements directly over to a standard turbos.(although listing it with the ETT measurement shows the flow capability) It will definitely give you an idea of where the 'power band' should start, but b/c of the Extended Tip technology, you are able to flow a lot more air. (i.e. a standard 50 trim that would flow 49lbs/min, while the S200 would be over 55lbs/min)
you can get the turbine with .58, .76, or .85
he would be getting a setup fit to his setup anyhow, so the choice would be there.
you can get the turbine with .58, .76, or .85
he would be getting a setup fit to his setup anyhow, so the choice would be there.
11-06-2006, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by NoLimit
you can not compare the BorgWarner's S series compressor's turbo's measurements directly over to a standard turbos.(although listing it with the ETT measurement shows the flow capability) It will definitely give you an idea of where the 'power band' should start, but b/c of the Extended Tip technology, you are able to flow a lot more air. (i.e. a standard 50 trim that would flow 49lbs/min, while the S200 would be over 55lbs/min)
you can get the turbine with .58, .76, or .85
he would be getting a setup fit to his setup anyhow, so the choice would be there.
you can get the turbine with .58, .76, or .85
he would be getting a setup fit to his setup anyhow, so the choice would be there.
11-06-2006, 09:19 PM
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Not many people seem to know about these turbos, but they've been around for a bit. They just don't advertise like some of the other companies, .... I recall a 6.6 sec 1/4mi Z using a BorgWarner turbo! 
The compressor maps with these S series turbos are sick! b/c of the Extended Tip Technology and Map Width Enhancement grooves... Basically, we're going to get into the conversation of "area under the curves!!"
an S200 vs and older 'green' map:
The compressor maps with these S series turbos are sick! b/c of the Extended Tip Technology and Map Width Enhancement grooves... Basically, we're going to get into the conversation of "area under the curves!!"
an S200 vs and older 'green' map:
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11-06-2006, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by NoLimit
Not many people seem to know about these turbos, but they've been around for a bit. They just don't advertise like some of the other companies, .... I recall a 6.6 sec 1/4 Z using a BorgWarner turbo!
The compressor maps with these S series turbos are sick! b/c of the Extended Tip Technology and Map Width Enhancement grooves... Basically, we're going to get into the conversation of "area under the curves!!"
an S200 vs and older 'green' map:
The compressor maps with these S series turbos are sick! b/c of the Extended Tip Technology and Map Width Enhancement grooves... Basically, we're going to get into the conversation of "area under the curves!!"
an S200 vs and older 'green' map:
11-06-2006, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
Fit by who? Do you have the compressor map for this unit? What is the flow potential of the turbine? What is the exducer size? Major diameter?
So I guess to answer your questions, one would ask, ... what do you want?
11-06-2006, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
Super now do you have a compressor map for the unit he is looking at?
edit: Am I sensing some kind of Hostility or what?? As I figured on this board, ... if you don't suck <0ck and swing from someones *****, you get no credit for anything....
11-06-2006, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by NoLimit
that's supposed to be a 50 trim, ... what HP potential is JET looking for? 550? 600?
edit: Am I sensing some kind of Hostility or what?? As I figured on this board, ... if you don't suck <0ck and swing from someones *****, you get no credit for anything....
edit: Am I sensing some kind of Hostility or what?? As I figured on this board, ... if you don't suck <0ck and swing from someones *****, you get no credit for anything....
11-06-2006, 09:39 PM
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I really have no opinion or anything to gain either way....
I just like to show other options to people, ... that's why I had PM'd him a few days ago....
The point with the turbine housing is simple, ... it's being made to fit an application, and can be assembled as such. So does he want something comparable to the turbo that comes with the TN kit? but can just flow more air?
If so, I thought the BorgWarner turbos may fit the bill.....
I just like to show other options to people, ... that's why I had PM'd him a few days ago....
The point with the turbine housing is simple, ... it's being made to fit an application, and can be assembled as such. So does he want something comparable to the turbo that comes with the TN kit? but can just flow more air?
If so, I thought the BorgWarner turbos may fit the bill.....
11-06-2006, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by NoLimit
I really have no opinion or anything to gain either way....
I just like to show other options to people, ... that's why I had PM'd him a few days ago....
The point with the turbine housing is simple, ... it's being made to fit an application, and can be assembled as such. So does he want something comparable to the turbo that comes with the TN kit? but can just flow more air?
If so, I thought the BorgWarner turbos may fit the bill.....
I just like to show other options to people, ... that's why I had PM'd him a few days ago....
The point with the turbine housing is simple, ... it's being made to fit an application, and can be assembled as such. So does he want something comparable to the turbo that comes with the TN kit? but can just flow more air?
If so, I thought the BorgWarner turbos may fit the bill.....
11-06-2006, 09:54 PM
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Right! That's why I already asked what he plans, or wants, to get from an upgraded turbo. B/c without knowing that, one wouldn't be able to suggest any combination except their own ideas....
so.... JET, what do you want?
so.... JET, what do you want?
11-06-2006, 09:59 PM
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Oh and as an FYI their "Map Width Enhancement Grooves" are fancy terms for ported shrouds which a lot of turbo manufacturers have been using for years. The type of shroud they used in the pic on that site is typical of the diesel units Turbonetics produces. Pic here from the older HP76 turbo using the same "Map Width Enhancement Groove... There are newer ways to do the same thing that are more efficient for these types of applications. The GT-K turbos use this new type of porting, so does HKS...pics of that..
HKS:
Turbonetics GT-K:
Older style ported shroud from Ford 7.3L Diesel upgrade below..
HKS:
Turbonetics GT-K:
Older style ported shroud from Ford 7.3L Diesel upgrade below..
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11-06-2006, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by NoLimit
Right! That's why I already asked what he plans, or wants, to get from an upgraded turbo. B/c without knowing that, one wouldn't be able to suggest any combination except their own ideas....
so.... JET, what do you want?
so.... JET, what do you want?
11-06-2006, 10:07 PM
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how about I just post the facts when I get them.
until then it is all speculation....
I will also be able to post a comparison of these turbos vs a couple others on a boosted NSX, ... possibly a VQ as well.
until then it is all speculation....
I will also be able to post a comparison of these turbos vs a couple others on a boosted NSX, ... possibly a VQ as well.
11-06-2006, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by NoLimit
how about I just post the facts when I get them.
until then it is all speculation....
I will also be able to post a comparison of these turbos vs a couple others on a boosted NSX, ... possibly a VQ as well.
until then it is all speculation....
I will also be able to post a comparison of these turbos vs a couple others on a boosted NSX, ... possibly a VQ as well.