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This is not really FI related but I know some of you big boys making a lot of power might be interested in this. I am working with Mackin Industries and RAYS Engineering on developing a 18x10.5 +22 front and 18x11.5 +29 rear TE37. 265/315 (TRACTION!) would be the ideal tire size for this setup, who would be interested?
If they can make it in the gloss black Limited edition variety Im in. Handling down the pooper some, but the car should hook. Im def in-just keep the price "reasonable'
edit-crap just noticed you said 18's...ughhh once an idea of price is established I'll make a decision. BTW-I thought TE37's were discontinued now?

edit-crap just noticed you said 18's...ughhh once an idea of price is established I'll make a decision. BTW-I thought TE37's were discontinued now?
are you sure about those sizes and offsets? you can run those tire sizes on 9.5"/10.5" width wheels. I'm all for a properly sized 10.5" rear wheel with an offset around 35. Please convince me that a 11.5" 29mm will fit without major fender work.
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Originally Posted by arizzee
are you sure about those sizes and offsets? you can run those tire sizes on 9.5"/10.5" width wheels. I'm all for a properly sized 10.5" with an offset around 35. Please convince me that a 11.5" 29mm will fit without major fender work.
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A +34 offset has been discussed but we thought that was too conservative, plus you would be losing a lot of the concavity in the wheel. Either way, there are only 20 sets of these sizes and offsets being made and I cant mix and match, it has to be +29 or +34. What would you guys feel better about?
I'd be concerned with the inner clearance with an 11.5" +34. A 10.5" +43 has about 3/8" max clearance between the tire and shock body with a 315/30/18 tire (that's with a D-spec shock. add coilovers to the mix and who knows) A 11.5" +34 will have 4mm less clearance to the shock. Of the two, I'd say the +29 is better but still tight.
IMHO, if they could do a very deep offset, like +35-+40, and still maintain inner fender/strut clearance, I would be ALL over this. A properly tucked 11.5inch wheel opens the door wide open, to 325 or larger rear tires.
A lot of guys are not willing to spend a thousand or so in fender work, aside from basic fender rolling.
A lot of guys are not willing to spend a thousand or so in fender work, aside from basic fender rolling.
I think both wheels are too wide, not because of the size of the wheel so much, but because of what the section width of the tire will end up being.
I'd think a 10 inch front and 11 inch rear should be plenty wide for the types of tires available that'd fit in the rear of this car. The widest tire I've ever heard of anyone fitting is a Nitto NT-01 315 (323)/30/18 on a 10.5 inch 30mm offset rim and everyone says the thing barely fits.
as you widen the wheels, you will widen the tire tread as well just barely. Meaning a 315 on a 11.5 inch rim will be a little wider than on a 9.5 rim
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete...p#sectionwidth
4th paragraph under section width
this means, as opposed to a 10.5 inch rim, the section width of a tire on a 11.5 inch rim will increase by 4/10 inch or 10mm meaning 5mm closer to the shock and 5mm closer to the fender
BTW what tires specifically is everyone wanting to run on an 11.5 inch rim - I only know of so many sizes out there of good brands of sticky tires
actually on 2nd thought the front wheel being 10.5 at 22mm offset is just way too wide. I honestly don't think it'd work
I'd think a 10 inch front and 11 inch rear should be plenty wide for the types of tires available that'd fit in the rear of this car. The widest tire I've ever heard of anyone fitting is a Nitto NT-01 315 (323)/30/18 on a 10.5 inch 30mm offset rim and everyone says the thing barely fits.
as you widen the wheels, you will widen the tire tread as well just barely. Meaning a 315 on a 11.5 inch rim will be a little wider than on a 9.5 rim
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete...p#sectionwidth
4th paragraph under section width
The industry rule of thumb is that for every 1/2" change in rim width, the tire's section width will correspondingly change by approximately 2/10".
BTW what tires specifically is everyone wanting to run on an 11.5 inch rim - I only know of so many sizes out there of good brands of sticky tires
actually on 2nd thought the front wheel being 10.5 at 22mm offset is just way too wide. I honestly don't think it'd work
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The distance from the wheels/tire to the shock body with a +34, you will only have about 6mm clearance, with a +29 you will have 11mm. A 315 tire should have no problem clearing let alone a 305.
11.5 +34 will not clear the stock shock let alone a coilover. That's a fact. I have an SSR 10.5 +43 and it rubs on the stock shock. 11.5 +34 would be 4mm less. A coilover with a +43 would be disasterous.
My 10" +25 Advans with a 295 barely clear my rolled fender on my 1.25" dropped rear. And I mean barely. Your talking about extending the wheel another 15mm and adding a 315 tire? NO WAY!!! MAYBE at stock height! But not lowered.
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My 10" +25 Advans with a 295 barely clear my rolled fender on my 1.25" dropped rear. And I mean barely. Your talking about extending the wheel another 15mm and adding a 315 tire? NO WAY!!! MAYBE at stock height! But not lowered.
JET
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yeah I don't think the 34mm ofset would work at all.
I still think the tire will be a little wider on a 11.5 rim than on a 10.5 rim - talking like 2-4 mm here, but with wheels/tires this big, those mm can matter
I still think the tire will be a little wider on a 11.5 rim than on a 10.5 rim - talking like 2-4 mm here, but with wheels/tires this big, those mm can matter



