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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by geezin56
Yes you have to deal w/ a new hood and yes it makes less peak power than the other kits, but I'm also guessing the Stillen SC has got to be one of the lower cost, lower maintenance (i.e. reliable) options for FI. I've had the Stillen SC for about 2 years now and other than replacing belts and one repair to a faulty seal on the fuel pump/line i've had no "upkeep" costs at all. One thing to keep in mind in terms of affordability is what you will need to spend (tuning, upkeep, etc.) AFTER the install. I don't really worry much about a blown engine w/ my setup (maybe i'm naive), but I agree that if you can't afford to deal w/ major engine issues, FI is probably not a good option.
how much HP do you put down..and how much did the stage 4 cost if you don't mind me askin.
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 08:34 PM
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Best advice that I can give you before dropping a boatload of your hard earned cash on anything is to read the following which is a good read:

https://my350z.com/forum/engine-and-drivetrain/50429-new-350z-owners-read-this-before-doing-any-modifications-to-your-z.html

After you fully understand what you are up against, set a budget & then a goal for your car. GL!
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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 05:15 AM
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thank you for all of your responses, i appreciate the serious advice. I was hoping to stay below 5k after everything, but that does not seem realistic. i have 60kmiles on my z and can't afford a new motor if mines goes. I'll probably stay na, and rebuild the motor when it decides to go.
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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Amiricanmade
how much HP do you put down..and how much did the stage 4 cost if you don't mind me askin.
Last dyno was around 310HP/305TQ I believe. I live in Denver (mile above sea-level) so these results would probably be a good bit better with this same set up at sea-level. As a comparison, my baseline dyno when I was stock was about 235HP (don't recall TQ).

I believe the Stage 4 setup (including install, and buying and painting the hood) ran me around $7,500. So as people will point out, for the amount of $ I paid you could buy and install other kits (TN, Vortech) that will make more power. But like I said before, what I think people forget to account for is how much money you spend AFTER the install. I've spent all of about $600 in two years on belts and the fuel seal repair. My guess is w/ other setups you'll be spending way more than that over 2 year period.
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by clipso 01
thank you for all of your responses, i appreciate the serious advice. I was hoping to stay below 5k after everything, but that does not seem realistic. i have 60kmiles on my z and can't afford a new motor if mines goes. I'll probably stay na, and rebuild the motor when it decides to go.
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I'm glad to see that you are making a sensible, realistic decision on this. Better to be a little disappointed now than to be stubborn, do it wrong, and end up spending $10k for an f/i kit, then a subsequent new engine and install after it blows up from cutting a corner trying to go the "cheap" route.

You should consider nitrous though.
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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 10:25 AM
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There is a good way to go that is somewhat costly but in the end can offer a ton of reliablity and safety. You could always get your engine built with new rods, pistons and head studs before FI. Just get some JE pistons in stock compression that way you don't have to get any tuning done and can drive around like stock. Then as long as you don't plan on over 450whp on pump gas when the time comes for FI you can have great reiablity and safety if you have a good tune.
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Old Dec 6, 2006 | 09:10 AM
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if you stay NA go with the 3.9 final drive and that will help you out as well.
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Old Dec 6, 2006 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ravensaxe
if you stay NA go with the 3.9 final drive and that will help you out as well.
This is a great option. Yet, be warned that your top speed will be less and your gas milage will also be reduced.
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Old Dec 6, 2006 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by MoodDude
This is a great option. Yet, be warned that your top speed will be less and your gas milage will also be reduced.
lower top speed yes - but even with that, it still goes much faster than one would likely ever go

Gas mileage wise, I can personally attest that my car gets them same 320 miles per tank in a mix of local and highway driving, tank after tank, both before the gears were installed and afterwards
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Old Dec 6, 2006 | 11:50 AM
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well you can still go 168mph with the 3.9 FD on a 287hp engine at 6600 rpms...stock 6MT final drive is actually geared to go to 186mph. You're just speed limited to 160mph

the rev up would be even higher at 179mph with the 3.9 FD
stock final drive in a 6MT is geared to go 198mph...you'll never reach that though without a LOT more power


the vortech has been good to me though, but most people want turbos for the midrange punch

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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 08:13 PM
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With around $1,500 in good qualtiy reliable parts. You could have a reliable nitrous system if done right and youll be running 12's easily.
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 10:25 PM
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sorry buddy you a couple of months late
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 04:03 AM
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Subscribed. Thanks for the tips
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 04:47 AM
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The following words should not even be in the same sentence: Cheap,Reliable,forced induction
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 04:49 AM
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So many people don't understand that Nitrous IS F/I.

And it's by far the cheapest.
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Fluid1
So many people don't understand that Nitrous IS F/I.

And it's by far the cheapest.
And the most unreliable and unpredictible method by far..
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 04:59 AM
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have $10k or go home imo
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 05:04 AM
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Try the new "cardboard supercharger". It's the cheapest FI you can get.

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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by MRC Motorsports
The following words should not even be in the same sentence: Cheap,Reliable,forced induction
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Originally Posted by clipso 01
thank you for all of your responses, i appreciate the serious advice. I was hoping to stay below 5k after everything, but that does not seem realistic. i have 60kmiles on my z and can't afford a new motor if mines goes. I'll probably stay na, and rebuild the motor when it decides to go.
Thanks Again.
Mike
good choice, glad to see someone with sensibility when asking this question!
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by sugarspunZ
cheap and FI dont mix very well. just stay NA
and you forgot "reliable"
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