Bad Night, DEATH, The END, she's done. BOOM! 20+ psi error!
11-23-2006, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Audible Mayhem
8 psi spike is crazy.... i think something else might be a factor here.
i really dont understand why many people are pushing their stock motors and running boost controllers on the TN kit, i mean the tq levels are already high and i am crazy about pushing the limits.
i really dont understand why many people are pushing their stock motors and running boost controllers on the TN kit, i mean the tq levels are already high and i am crazy about pushing the limits.
Sorry for the loss, let us know if we can assist.
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11-23-2006, 08:11 AM
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Ouch that sucks. But I have to back Craig on this. Last I heard from ipcheck he (a) modified the wastegate setup on the kit and then (b) did some kind of custom wastegate setup on the car as well with a wastegate on the passenger side also or something. And he was running 12 PSI. Different intercooler, the list goes on. This is by no means an out of box failure. ipcheck hacked this kit to bits and did his own thing. Oh and with the dump tube like that I'd worry about burning through the wastegate signal used to open the wastegate. In fact I warned him of that when he was telling me all this work he was doing. I told him to make sure the wastegate discharge was no where near pointing at the signal line to the unit or kaboom.
11-23-2006, 09:38 AM
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I'm sorry to hear about that, absolutely unfortunate...would make me sick!
Not sure about your future plans, and whether you are going to keep your current kit, but there are some good kits up in the Marketplace. Brand new PE, APS (just happens to be mine, hehe), and a slightly used Greddy if you decide to go that route...
Not sure about your future plans, and whether you are going to keep your current kit, but there are some good kits up in the Marketplace. Brand new PE, APS (just happens to be mine, hehe), and a slightly used Greddy if you decide to go that route...
11-23-2006, 11:06 AM
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FIRST OFF TO CLEAR.
Wastegate was not out of box, it all has been modified. relocated (not TN), and yes atmosphere dump. Turbonetics has absolutely no fault on this. Its all me, the main vacum feed from the compressor to GATE cracked open, that was the lead to peak over 20+ psi, and trust me the turbo spools 20 just fine. The different setup on my gate (TAURRAN) was not on the car last night, nevertheless, the gate is not mounted as it comes to be on the TN kit...
What happened....
I got a 12.9 @ 117, spun first, 2nd and a bit of third, but when i shifted to fourth, it detonated, i let off, and still got a 12.9
then, on the 2nd run, the burnout was different for some reason (vacum line was cracked by then), the blow off was way too long and loud. meaning, I must have peaked boost on 1st when burning out, then right on the end of 2nd the wideband showed 14.5 lol, and 20+ psi and rising, then I panic and as soon as I let off the gas, boom.... cloud of smoke....... pieces hitting track floor.....
Temperature was 39 or 40+ I believe, I noticed this morning when removing the engine that the vacum line from the turbo to wastegate was cracked right open, that caused the 20+ psi.
Guys for now, I'm putting a stock engine in, and this blown one is going to get blasted with goodies... Will post more info when the pain passes...
Wastegate was not out of box, it all has been modified. relocated (not TN), and yes atmosphere dump. Turbonetics has absolutely no fault on this. Its all me, the main vacum feed from the compressor to GATE cracked open, that was the lead to peak over 20+ psi, and trust me the turbo spools 20 just fine. The different setup on my gate (TAURRAN) was not on the car last night, nevertheless, the gate is not mounted as it comes to be on the TN kit...
What happened....
I got a 12.9 @ 117, spun first, 2nd and a bit of third, but when i shifted to fourth, it detonated, i let off, and still got a 12.9
then, on the 2nd run, the burnout was different for some reason (vacum line was cracked by then), the blow off was way too long and loud. meaning, I must have peaked boost on 1st when burning out, then right on the end of 2nd the wideband showed 14.5 lol, and 20+ psi and rising, then I panic and as soon as I let off the gas, boom.... cloud of smoke....... pieces hitting track floor.....
Temperature was 39 or 40+ I believe, I noticed this morning when removing the engine that the vacum line from the turbo to wastegate was cracked right open, that caused the 20+ psi.
Guys for now, I'm putting a stock engine in, and this blown one is going to get blasted with goodies... Will post more info when the pain passes...
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11-23-2006, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by doug
how are you going to do something with the blown one? it looks like it has a hole in the block
Sorry to hear of the failure, good luck.
11-23-2006, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by ipcheck
FIRST OFF TO CLEAR.
Wastegate was not out of box, it all has been modified. relocated (not TN), and yes atmosphere dump. Turbonetics has absolutely no fault on this. Its all me, the main vacum feed from the compressor to GATE cracked open, that was the lead to peak over 20+ psi, and trust me the turbo spools 20 just fine. The different setup on my gate (TAURRAN) was not on the car last night, nevertheless, the gate is not mounted as it comes to be on the TN kit...
What happened....
I got a 12.9 @ 117, spun first, 2nd and a bit of third, but when i shifted to fourth, it detonated, i let off, and still got a 12.9
then, on the 2nd run, the burnout was different for some reason (vacum line was cracked by then), the blow off was way too long and loud. meaning, I must have peaked boost on 1st when burning out, then right on the end of 2nd the wideband showed 14.5 lol, and 20+ psi and rising, then I panic and as soon as I let off the gas, boom.... cloud of smoke....... pieces hitting track floor.....
Temperature was 39 or 40+ I believe, I noticed this morning when removing the engine that the vacum line from the turbo to wastegate was cracked right open, that caused the 20+ psi.
Guys for now, I'm putting a stock engine in, and this blown one is going to get blasted with goodies... Will post more info when the pain passes...
Wastegate was not out of box, it all has been modified. relocated (not TN), and yes atmosphere dump. Turbonetics has absolutely no fault on this. Its all me, the main vacum feed from the compressor to GATE cracked open, that was the lead to peak over 20+ psi, and trust me the turbo spools 20 just fine. The different setup on my gate (TAURRAN) was not on the car last night, nevertheless, the gate is not mounted as it comes to be on the TN kit...
What happened....
I got a 12.9 @ 117, spun first, 2nd and a bit of third, but when i shifted to fourth, it detonated, i let off, and still got a 12.9
then, on the 2nd run, the burnout was different for some reason (vacum line was cracked by then), the blow off was way too long and loud. meaning, I must have peaked boost on 1st when burning out, then right on the end of 2nd the wideband showed 14.5 lol, and 20+ psi and rising, then I panic and as soon as I let off the gas, boom.... cloud of smoke....... pieces hitting track floor.....
Temperature was 39 or 40+ I believe, I noticed this morning when removing the engine that the vacum line from the turbo to wastegate was cracked right open, that caused the 20+ psi.
Guys for now, I'm putting a stock engine in, and this blown one is going to get blasted with goodies... Will post more info when the pain passes...
Does the cracked signal line also account for the overboosting you reported back in April?
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11-23-2006, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by JETPILOT
Just interested.... can you post pictures of how the wastegate was mounted? Or describe it?
Does the cracked signal line also account for the overboosting you reported back in April?
JET
Does the cracked signal line also account for the overboosting you reported back in April?
JET
11-23-2006, 02:03 PM
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im sorry but if that rod was spinning around in there not attached to a piston like its supposed to be, i dont think that the hole in the upper pan is the only damage.
good luck, still might have to get a bare block but thats only the beginning of your costs....
good luck, still might have to get a bare block but thats only the beginning of your costs....
11-23-2006, 07:48 PM
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This so FAR, replacing with stock VQ for now....
No i didn't use a cherry picker, i picked it off there myself, will buy a cherry picker to install new engine though =(
No i didn't use a cherry picker, i picked it off there myself, will buy a cherry picker to install new engine though =(
