Just tryin to poke a lil fun Doug Everyone has what they prefer and is great so we have individuality.

 

Great setup, have fun, and be safe man.

 

Congrats man all the best....

 

hey man, i am with doug and julian on this, i am just nicer about it, they are both asses with a blunt way of saying stuff.


the truth is, i have a friend here who has had a stillen SC forever, he has the big ole hood, has upgraded it all the way through. he has the stage 3 now and the most he EVER put down on any dyno was 311 hp. i have personally tuned cars to get 260-270 naturally aspirated. he thought about upgrading it to the stage 4 and just gave up, he is taking it off his car and getting a TN ST kit and he will have A LOT more power for about the same money.


the stillen is not worth it in my opinion, there are many many many other options that can be set up VERY safe for you and will have 50-60 more hp and tq all the time and will last the lifetime of your car. even the vortechs are putting down close to a safe reliable 390-400.


the best time he ever ran with it was a 13.1@ around 107, thats with stage 3, there are TONS of NA setups that run that all day, we are just looking out and trying to save you "wasted" money and point you in the right direction, doug and julian just have a round-a-bout way of doing it...

 

you guys are jerks , he doesnt care about power!

 

well priscilla, he does care somewhat about power or he wouldnt be putting a supercharger on his car at all , and yes they are jackasses!!! but they know it...

 

i'm always hearing that stage 3 is hardly a step up from stage 2, but going to stage 4 does add something like 30whp

IMO people don't get the stillen cause they want to drive the car up to redline a lot. They want all the power down low right off of idle, which is something it does really well and it's still fairly reliable.

Even though you can get similar peak NA whp comperable to a stage 1 or 2 stillen, no NA setup will give you huge amounts of torque right off of idle the same way the stillen kit does.

However for real drag racing, you're going to be launching the car at fairly high rpms anyway and that low end power isn't going to be put to use. The kit IMO is strictly a street supercharger for going from stoplight to stoplight. I don't see why people have to be mean about jumping on his choice

 

im sorry man, but i disagree, driving is driving and knowing how and when you need to be in the redline, well thats knowing how to drive, even if you like power down low in the rpms, i dont really think you should be racing there, there is no point ever where you should start a race at 2500-3000 rpms...

 

I wasn't talking about racing, just driving quickly through traffic. If anyone wants to go as fast as possible, they're going to drive to redline, but many people don't want to have to push the car and noise levels THAT hard just to get to the next stoplight or up to the 45mph speed limit

many people on the street who just want to jump ahead of traffic and get a kick back in their seat, don't need to rev all the way to redline to do that. You can shift at 4-5k rpms and still get the jump on traffic. Otherwise you're talking about going to 60+mph to shift into 3rd gear after redlining 2nd gear and making a LOT of noise to attract cops

 

i am a confirmed *******... i am even worse in real life... especially when i turn up the sarcasm.. i am never one to really hold back my thoughts though...

 

There were two instances of dyno days where I've seen two stillen SC dynod against a gang of other vehicles.

It was quite surprising to say the least.

There were REVUP engines making 260's with bolt ons. The Stillen stage II was pulling just over 300.
All that money and hardware wasn't doing much?

I like the concept of positive displacement but after seeing a few examples I was left confused. Were they working properly?... IDK

 

This is straight from Stillen's website (dynoed by them). For a Stage 2 287 hp engine, a little over 300 to the wheels sounds about right...


287HP VQ35DE Engines

STAGE 1 - 369 hp / 305 lbs/ft Flywheel
STAGE 2 - 382 hp / 313 lbs/ft Flywheel
STAGE 3 - 410 hp / 339 lbs/ft Flywheel

300HP VQ35DE Engines

STAGE 2 - 390 hp / 360 lbs/ft Flywheel
STAGE 3 - 410 hp / 380 lbs/ft Flywheel

It's not a crazy kit, I wouldnt mind 80 hp extra over stock, but for the money I can see where people would mind. They do however say this kit is the most reliable.

 

thats a myth

 

That's their sales pitch. They do always say that they have never blown a motor, but IMO, this is due to the fact that their setups are not capable of making enough power to break stuff, not b/c it's such a well thought out setup...

It would be a good kit if you could have it done for about 5.5-6G out-of-the-door including the hood. Then it would be close in whp gained/$$ spent to other kits.

Same story with Magnusson blower for the GTO. Other setups make so much more gains...

 

The kit is more so about the look of it in the end, not the power. I have stated that at least 5 times now in this thread. I want the blower to be visible, and that just isnt possible with any other kit that I have looked at, unless Im just completely missing something. Correct me if Im wrong but from viewing threads with pics of other SC installs, they are not the same top mount design that the Stillen has.

If I was looking for the most "reliable power" ( whatever that means ) then I wouldnt of even looked at Stillen. Never said Stillen was the best bang for my buck nor that it was the "safest" out there. So assuming that Im interested in the power is a mistake on your part. For me its about the look that Im going for and the sound. At least it is for this application. If I wanted the most power for the lowest ammount, I wouldnt of gone with the Z.

 

Sir, you have made that point abundantly clear.
A suggestion though... You may to do a photochop before you chop up your car.
The peeking blower looks good on cars that just look brutally powerful. The Mad Max Interceptor is the epitome of such brutality, at least in my humble opinion.
The Z's lines are way too refined to be brutal, I am trying to picture the setup you're considering, just doesn't go together. Before you drop time and $$ into this, why don't you make a photoshop pic, or ask one of our experts to help...

Just a suggestion...

 

good suggestion...

 

Still though, 1/2 the people posting in this thread don't even have a F/I setup on their car. Most people in here haven't ridden in a Stillen SC Z/G either. Bottom line, it's not the highest hp/tq out there, and you won't be the fastest. It looks great, sounds great, is very reliable and easy to install/maintain, and gets you some great low/mid-range power. End of discussion. Really, what is there to debate?

 

No argument from me!

 

Which is why I bought it