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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 10:06 PM
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This motor is baddass... Look at the dyno graph. Can you imagine a TT on that motor and the block is so much stronger and a better design. Also the rods and pistons are greatly stengthened. There is going to be some stock block monsters and built motors making crazy power high up in the rev range with a fat Tq curve. Wish I did what I did with my Z with the new motor. Excited to see what happens.
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 10:16 PM
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I'm not really impressed even though I know it's a better motor. The HR has better intake/exhaust manifolds, heads, and probably cams too. If you added all that to a DE motor it would probably have similar power.
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I'm not really impressed even though I know it's a better motor. The HR has better intake/exhaust manifolds, heads, and probably cams too. If you added all that to a DE motor it would probably have similar power.
The motor is completely redesigned. Read some technical data on it and you will change your mind.
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Stock block monsters? With a 10.6:1 compression raio i don't think that would be the case. At least not on everyday pump gas.
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 10:32 PM
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I'm not really impressed even though I know it's a better motor. The HR has better intake/exhaust manifolds, heads, and probably cams too. If you added all that to a DE motor it would probably have similar power.
It has a lot more than that. Read and article on the motor and you'll see it has more than what you noted. I bet the new GTR has the same motor with stronger internals and lower compression.
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 10:34 PM
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Stock block monsters? With a 10.6:1 compression raio i don't think that would be the case. At least not on everyday pump gas.
The block design is a lot better. AKA no headlift at high boost. Also the rods and pistons are a lot stronger stock. Throw 10lbs of boost at it with a safe tune and I bet it makes 550whp.
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Stock block monsters? With a 10.6:1 compression raio i don't think that would be the case. At least not on everyday pump gas.
CR is not everything. It is only bumped up .3, but the rods, pistons, rod angle, and almost everything else about the motor spells big power. The e46 m3 is 11.5:1 and the new turbo kit coming out for it is tuned to around 750 crank. The kit is designed by Horsepower Freaks.
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man, those who aren't impressed are clueless about this motor. stock form will handle 500+ hp and is built to handle FI applications. Dyno looks great, but that's only fraction of it's potential.
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 10:56 PM
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man, those who aren't impressed are clueless about this motor. stock form will handle 500+ hp and is built to handle FI applications. Dyno looks great, but that's only fraction of it's potential.
I thought the dyno just showed how much faster and fatter the power comes on with the new motor and how it makes power far past the old motor, you you imagine that power sheet with a turbo I think a slightly tuned and modified GTR is going to blow our minds and compete with if not surpass the mighty c6Z06. And you all know how big of fan of the c6Z06 I am . I am still on the fence on which car I want.
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werd. I don't think people realizes that this engine, basically, is the platform for the new gt-r. The dyno chart appears to have a tasty power surge, around 2k rpm. lol. much smoother curve as well. z06 and skyline will be a tough choice, but the gt-r supposedly is shooting for 3.5s 0-60. I'll be extremely happy if it even hit low to mid 4's. Not too mention enormous after market, unlike the z06.
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werd. I don't think people realizes that this engine, basically, is the platform for the new gt-r. The dyno chart appears to have a tasty power surge, around 2k rpm. lol. much smoother curve as well. z06 and skyline will be a tough choice, but the gt-r supposedly is shooting for 3.5s 0-60. I'll be extremely happy if it even hit low to mid 4's. Not too mention enormous after market, unlike the z06.
My Revup TQ spikes at 2500 also. Not really sure why.
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 12:14 AM
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IS this motor a direct swap for us DE guys? I was thinking too it would be wise to go with one of these setups and two blower dryers.
I also bet a skyline swap is on a lot of Z owners minds as well!!
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I already read about the motor. No duh it's a new motor hence the HR vs DE. I just named those parts because that would account for the power difference. We're talking 13hp which can be made with said parts in a DE. Anyhow, comparing the HR to the DE is like comparing a modded DE to an umodded DE. Of course it's going to make more power.
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Originally Posted by bigbri
The block design is a lot better. AKA no headlift at high boost. Also the rods and pistons are a lot stronger stock. Throw 10lbs of boost at it with a safe tune and I bet it makes 550whp.
Your getting way ahead of yourself. No head lift? We wont know if the stock head studs are TQ'd down weak like our motors until somebody starts boosting a new motor. Its all specualtion. While this new motor is obviously a step up, judging by those graphs I dont think its anything to be scared of (current owners), looks like a little more top end and slightly better low end. 550whp @ 10psi? ---->Maybe on that crack ***** Dastek dyno you put your car on and hit 700whp with....
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 05:01 AM
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If someone wasn't joking about their friend bringing their 07 G35s to the track and running 13.7@103 with a 2.1 60'

I'd say its a little quicker than the older G's.
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 05:23 AM
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I am not impressed... the curve looks bigger at the end probably due to bigger redline
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 05:29 AM
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maybe a little better motor but nissan warranty and customer service still sucks...
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 05:37 AM
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One of the biggest overall improvements to the VQ35HR motor is the addition of a solid one piece main and girdle. The current steel mains with supporting aluminum girdle is a weak link at higher power levels that none on this board have experienced as of yet. The New motor utilizes a one piece solid main and girle assembly supporting the crank shaft with HP levels of 1000hp capable. Another big increase is the materials used on the crank shaft and pistons.This motor may dethrone the almighty RB26det if Nissan solidifies the deck design a bit.
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Zexy
Stock block monsters? With a 10.6:1 compression raio i don't think that would be the case. At least not on everyday pump gas.
Not entirely true. I know plenty of stock block Hondas running 20+psi on pump gas.
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by bigbri
This motor is baddass... Look at the dyno graph. Can you imagine a TT on that motor and the block is so much stronger and a better design. Also the rods and pistons are greatly stengthened. There is going to be some stock block monsters and built motors making crazy power high up in the rev range with a fat Tq curve. Wish I did what I did with my Z with the new motor. Excited to see what happens.
Where did you read something about stronger rods? Ive never found that info.
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