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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 04:47 PM
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The Spearco WIS kit can be installed with the Turbonetics Stage 1 no issues but to make some more power if you wanted to you would need to tune the car. As for reselling it Spearco is a division of Turbonetics and the kit they sell was designed all in house... Hope that helps!!
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 04:59 PM
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I have been using the Aquamist water/meth kit for several months now. When tuning my car, I originally tuned to 18psi with the water inj disconnected. Once I was happy with the fuel and ignition timing, I connected the water injection, without changing ANYTHING else, I gained 30 whp and 35 w tq on the dyno! I didnt want to run on the bitter edge with ignition timing and lean mixtures, I use the water injection to further reduce detonation and the obvious power gain!

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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 05:02 PM
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i got 4 monhts on the spearco universla kit and I love it... =]
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 350zDCalb
I have been using the Aquamist water/meth kit for several months now. When tuning my car, I originally tuned to 18psi with the water inj disconnected. Once I was happy with the fuel and ignition timing, I connected the water injection, without changing ANYTHING else, I gained 30 whp and 35 w tq on the dyno! I didn’t want to run on the bitter edge with ignition timing and lean mixtures, I use the water injection to further reduce detonation and the obvious power gain!

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Todd: That is exactly what I am interested in doing... The idea is not to allow for more aggressive tuning, but for some additional safety. Good to hear it is working well for you.

Quicksilver: Awesome to hear man. Are you using it to eek that extra power out of your tune or more for cooling/reduction of detonation? What are you opinions on ease of use? Are you using a separate tank or your windshield washer and how often do you need to refill it when driving hard?

Thanks for answering my questions guys.
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by BamBam
Quicksilver: Awesome to hear man. Are you using it to eek that extra power out of your tune or more for cooling/reduction of detonation? What are you opinions on ease of use? Are you using a separate tank or your windshield washer and how often do you need to refill it when driving hard?

Thanks for answering my questions guys.
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an added enhacement, I had it off when i got the car tuned. The ease of use is as easy as it gets =], the intall was pretty easy as well(speaking all on the spearco kit), but i am sure you are getting some power increase anyways =]
I could have used a separte tank but i choose the windshield washer so i can see it in the dash when low.
REfilling... jsut slightly under a month so far ..i am using 50/50 mix meth/water
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 01:02 PM
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Thanks for that info man... Guess I will go ahead and order it then.
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BamBam
Thanks for that info man... Guess I will go ahead and order it then.

sheat man with so much that you have i can't believe you dont have it in yet
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 09:07 PM
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I've been running the Snow Performance kit for almost a year, very stable good results
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 04:52 AM
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Damn Todd, 35whp with no changes in timing or A/F tuning by just running the WI? That sounds great, I may look into this I need a small power jump to eclipse the 600whp mark and make racing safer on certain days-like this past Saturday it was 29 degrees out!
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 06:04 AM
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just the added safety makes it all worth it... i dunno if i made anywhere near that much, but even if you make 10-15 whp its well worth it
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 06:37 AM
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I dont get how some make 35whp more, others dont see power improvements but of course run richer. Is it the mix?
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 06:43 AM
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yah... 50/50 mix with methanol/water.... you could improve the the gas by like 6-9 points... IE for me..from 91 gas to ~~97-98octange so that is where i think the most power improvement would come...the waters helps on the cooling and preventing detonation ....
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 06:46 AM
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I know when people say 50/50 its the mix, thats not what I was asking. If people could post gains AND what mix of meth/water they use that would be more helpful.

edit-good example of a great post is boogers, he stated the mix and the gains. Id like to know what mix Sharif used to see 1pt richer A/F's with no power loss. Id also like to know what mix Todd used to see gain slike that with no changes. Id assume the higher the methanol mix the more power potential?
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 06:50 AM
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problem with putting to100% methanol is that the life of the pumps diminishes... corrosion etc etc... fails...
and + 50/50 is def less flamable
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Dubai
Anyone with a water/methanol injection kit? does it make a difference/gains with a TT Z?
deff gives you a good does of power anytime you cool the engine down with anything it makes power
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 08:22 AM
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it partly depends on the intercooler vs the amount of boost being made.

If you have a huge intercooler and a huge amount of boost, you're working that intercooler just as hard as you would a smaller intercooler with a smaller amount of boost

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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
I know when people say 50/50 its the mix, thats not what I was asking. If people could post gains AND what mix of meth/water they use that would be more helpful.

edit-good example of a great post is boogers, he stated the mix and the gains. Id like to know what mix Sharif used to see 1pt richer A/F's with no power loss. Id also like to know what mix Todd used to see gain slike that with no changes. Id assume the higher the methanol mix the more power potential?
people say 50/50 mix, because they KNOW what it is, you can get it specifically mixed from snow perf. or you can go to autozone or advanced and take your chance on the mix they use, its around 50/50, but who is gonna check they're quality? if you do feel that you want to go to "anywhere" and get the windshield washer fluid, make sure you read the label. some of the mixes dont even have meth at all, they use rubbiung alcohol, and i forget what the other type of alchol they use is.
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 06:00 PM
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I mix my own . I buy pure methanol from a local shop and mix 50/50 with distilled water
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 06:21 PM
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that will also work booger... haha. Snow perf also told me that if you run straight meth. it could lean you WAY out.. whats the word on the streets about this?

i have a snow perf kit installed on my greddy kit and blew it up, im pretty sure it was because the shop thatwas doin the work failed to tell me that they never swapped the stock fuel pump for the walboro.
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 06:26 PM
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Snow Performance told me that they got the best results with the 51/49 solution which is why they are selling it that way. I've been using only their boost juice for almost a year now.
The only drawback is that the shipping of a case is more expensive than the case itself due to the hazadous material regulations from what I understand.
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