9 psi. pulleys
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My 9 psi. pulleys came in today!! Going to install them and retune on the 19th at AAM. I'm currently making 355 whp with the 7psi setup. Anyone with an ATI procharger running 9psi and could give me an estimate of what kind of power I can expect?
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385+ whp sounds cool, too bad superchargers don't have as much power available mid-range like turbos do. Hopefully I'll hit 12.50's or lower at the track next month.
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best i had was 1.95 60' times. but trans is kind of difficult to shift fast from 1-2 for some reason. so, shifts are slowing me down, and i don't have the ***** to powershift like you do. haha. you coming to capitol in march? i'd like to see your whole set up and all that. perhaps hear it and get a ride. if not, maybe i'll see everyone at the columbia meets.
i had 377 rwhp(6/7psi) and ran 12.3 with a 1.9 60ft ...im running 9-10psi now...my tuner said over 400 no prob so i hope u can get there...my numbers will come in march..good luck!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by eltness350
i had 377 rwhp(6/7psi) and ran 12.3 with a 1.9 60ft ...im running 9-10psi now...my tuner said over 400 no prob so i hope u can get there...my numbers will come in march..good luck!!!!!!!!!
Originally Posted by Sentry
as long as no one goes faster than 12's.
...because 12's are the physical speed barrier for supercharger setups no matter how much power they make ...so i've been told
...because 12's are the physical speed barrier for supercharger setups no matter how much power they make ...so i've been told
I'd rather examine different setups and draw my own conclusions which so far is that SC cars with <400whp have done low 12's, so >450whp might have a chance to hit 11's on drag radials/slicks
I tend to think nitrous is the better power adder than a turbo for the drag strip anyway because of the cooling charge and no extra heat from turbos. I know a turbo setup is nice, but running huge power out on the streets with street tires seems slightly pointless if you're not able to make full use of the lower gears anyway. Using the SC alone for everyday use and roadcourse/drift/autox, and then later with a built engine using nitrous for the 1/4 mile for more power where you'll be more likely to use race tires seems like an ok compromise to me.
my car is having more work done right now, but I will go down the 1/4 mile when it's done, but without drag slicks, I doubt I'll hit 11's
If I had the 3.5 FD, I'm not going to rev to 6800-7000 rpms in 4th gear in the 1/4 mile just for the sake of .1-.2 seconds faster. If I'm going to have to shift into 5th gear, I might as well make the gear multiplication stronger and cross the finish at 6000 rpms @11psi with more gear tq instead of 5400 rpms @10psi with less gear tq
I tend to think nitrous is the better power adder than a turbo for the drag strip anyway because of the cooling charge and no extra heat from turbos. I know a turbo setup is nice, but running huge power out on the streets with street tires seems slightly pointless if you're not able to make full use of the lower gears anyway. Using the SC alone for everyday use and roadcourse/drift/autox, and then later with a built engine using nitrous for the 1/4 mile for more power where you'll be more likely to use race tires seems like an ok compromise to me.
my car is having more work done right now, but I will go down the 1/4 mile when it's done, but without drag slicks, I doubt I'll hit 11's
If I had the 3.5 FD, I'm not going to rev to 6800-7000 rpms in 4th gear in the 1/4 mile just for the sake of .1-.2 seconds faster. If I'm going to have to shift into 5th gear, I might as well make the gear multiplication stronger and cross the finish at 6000 rpms @11psi with more gear tq instead of 5400 rpms @10psi with less gear tq
Last edited by sentry65; Feb 13, 2007 at 11:38 AM.
Why do you always write 3+ paragraph answers? lol...I hope 07' will bring the Z community a S/C car in the 11's, my guess if it does happen is that it will take 430+whp compared to under 400whp with some other set-ups (turbo or N20)
edit-I dont hate S/C's if you dont already know, my GF is actually considering a Vortech or ATI due to the linear power, for her, it would be perfect....
edit-I dont hate S/C's if you dont already know, my GF is actually considering a Vortech or ATI due to the linear power, for her, it would be perfect....
Last edited by Alberto; Feb 13, 2007 at 11:45 AM.
yeah that's true
SC's have to make up with their lack of low rpms torque by having more upper rpm torque with more boost up high
it's just a different setup and obviously has some limitations with the maximum power that can be extracted
SC's have to make up with their lack of low rpms torque by having more upper rpm torque with more boost up high
it's just a different setup and obviously has some limitations with the maximum power that can be extracted
Last edited by sentry65; Feb 13, 2007 at 12:07 PM.
if a 430whp SC = a 400whp turbo in the 1/4 mile,
then a 400tq turbo = a 350tq SC in the 1/4 mile
either statement by itself is misleading
if a 430+whp SC can theoretically do 11's, that's basically around 350 tq from 4500rpms-redline on a centrifugal SC's dyno curve
yet it takes 400 tq on a turbo car to run 11's (which makes around 300 tq at redline for a 400whp@6100 rpms setup)
It's just a difference in how the tq curve is shaped and is misleading to look at hp or tq by themselves. ST's have tq curves that drop as redline approaches and centrifugal SC's maintain a constant flat torque curve to redline as the expense of less peak mid rpm tq
I don't think you hate SC's Alberto and likewise I don't hate turbos. They're just different setups with different power potentials and powerbands.
then a 400tq turbo = a 350tq SC in the 1/4 mile
either statement by itself is misleading
if a 430+whp SC can theoretically do 11's, that's basically around 350 tq from 4500rpms-redline on a centrifugal SC's dyno curve
yet it takes 400 tq on a turbo car to run 11's (which makes around 300 tq at redline for a 400whp@6100 rpms setup)
It's just a difference in how the tq curve is shaped and is misleading to look at hp or tq by themselves. ST's have tq curves that drop as redline approaches and centrifugal SC's maintain a constant flat torque curve to redline as the expense of less peak mid rpm tq
I don't think you hate SC's Alberto and likewise I don't hate turbos. They're just different setups with different power potentials and powerbands.
Last edited by sentry65; Feb 13, 2007 at 12:19 PM.
all the info alberto ....done of bf drag radials....verified in the 1/4 time thread
r/t .... .181
60' ......1.936
330'.....5.307
1/8......8.043
mph.....90.00
1000....10.391
1/4......12.375
mph.....112.62
i have a vid of it and my burnout was....well kinda weak....with my 10psi and a better burnout i hope....i will be in the 11's ....as long as nothing breaks....u know that road all toooo well alberto....as i when i had a piece of shi* evo 8...
r/t .... .181
60' ......1.936
330'.....5.307
1/8......8.043
mph.....90.00
1000....10.391
1/4......12.375
mph.....112.62
i have a vid of it and my burnout was....well kinda weak....with my 10psi and a better burnout i hope....i will be in the 11's ....as long as nothing breaks....u know that road all toooo well alberto....as i when i had a piece of shi* evo 8...
Originally Posted by eltness350
all the info alberto ....done of bf drag radials....verified in the 1/4 time thread
r/t .... .181
60' ......1.936
330'.....5.307
1/8......8.043
mph.....90.00
1000....10.391
1/4......12.375
mph.....112.62
i have a vid of it and my burnout was....well kinda weak....with my 10psi and a better burnout i hope....i will be in the 11's ....as long as nothing breaks....u know that road all toooo well alberto....as i when i had a piece of shi* evo 8...
r/t .... .181
60' ......1.936
330'.....5.307
1/8......8.043
mph.....90.00
1000....10.391
1/4......12.375
mph.....112.62
i have a vid of it and my burnout was....well kinda weak....with my 10psi and a better burnout i hope....i will be in the 11's ....as long as nothing breaks....u know that road all toooo well alberto....as i when i had a piece of shi* evo 8...
no dyno yet....numbers in march ....thanks alberto ...i actually hit the rev limiter right when i crossed the 1/4 mark....yea shiftin at 6600. ...just got the aam ecu flash....they said 6800 no prob...even with the 10psi....u trust that??
No, I wouldnt raise my redline with FI on a stock block even 200rpm's. They have done so with some cars (whose owners dont even drag race) but that doesnt mean it isnt trouble prone, also you know you will boost a little more at 6800rpm's....but what do I know?



