Spent an hour with a stillen rep on the phone...
Originally Posted by Alberto
The fact that it is weak in terms of power is one thing-you dont want to push the limits of the motor. On the flip side you guys all run locked down tunes (most of which are wayyy rich)-anybody getting down on a TN reflash should do the same for Stillen. So you want reliabilty but 95% of Stillen guys run locked down SS boxes, its ironic isnt it? That is all, I dont want to turn this into a "Stillen sucks thread"
Originally Posted by Alberto
+1 on MIA and Sentry, I could jump into an uber weaksauce Stage 1 Stillen and blow it up in 3 passes whats your point?
Originally Posted by superchargedg
aww come on bert you know i had you in our little run
..................until you decided to hit the gas
and open the dumps right next to my window...................bastard.the stillen to me is a waist of money even though i still like the kit.but just like i have said a thousand times before if i had more choices back in mid 2003 i would never have gone with this kit.the choices we have now are just awesome,and you can get much better performance for the same amount of money............and not have to buy a new hood.me my self and i like the hood on a g but hate it on a z.

Just found this thread. Looks like it's yet another dick wagging contest. There are different options, and you find the one that best suits your driving, budget, etc... I'll be honest, I got a great deal used, installed stage 2, and wanted more power. Then I went stage 4 (another good deal used), and I still want more power. But that's just me being greedy. My car is not a weekend car, or a dedicated track pig. Besides riding my bike through the twisties, I drive the G everyday...commuting to work, road trips, autox, rain or shine, and will take it to the track and drag strip this summer. I can't afford downtime, or the costs/hassle of constant issues that are commonly associated with any of the turbo kits, ST and TT alike.
Bottom line, the Stillen kit is great for what it is. I quickly grew to love the hood (on the G, not Z), and onlookers seem really like it, as well. Definitely areas it could be better: M62 Eaton blower isn't very efficient, very little upgradability, and overall is one of the lowest hp F/I kits out there for the Z/G. I may go ATI or Vortech someday, but I'm in no rush. The only point I can agree on is that Stillen's customer service sucks overall. They don't answer the phones, they don't return phone calls, they're rude, unhelpful, and 90% of them don't know jack.
I autox'ed with this kit for the 1st time this past weekend, and I realized I've got plenty of power for that type of racing. I'm going to have to relearn how to drive my car in an autox course. I got my times down throughout the day, but definitely found myself wishing the car was back to just N/A bolt-ons at points in the day. The cars there ran the gamut from beaters to purpose built cars, with driver's of varying experience and enthusiasm. Countless guys came by to check out my G, and see where the hell that jet engine sounds was coming from. Hey, when a seasoned Z-06 owner admit you have his vote for best sounding car of them all, you can't help but crack a smile
Lastly, the included SS box does have a port...you just have to remove a few screws to open the box to get to it. I played with it a few weeks ago, using SS's R4 software to fix some pinging issues. I'm actually going to do some dyno tuning tomorrow, hopefully to extract some more power. You can only play with the fuel and timing, but we'll see how it goes. You just need a 9-port serial cable and jack on your laptop (harder to find these days than you might think).
Bottom line, the Stillen kit is great for what it is. I quickly grew to love the hood (on the G, not Z), and onlookers seem really like it, as well. Definitely areas it could be better: M62 Eaton blower isn't very efficient, very little upgradability, and overall is one of the lowest hp F/I kits out there for the Z/G. I may go ATI or Vortech someday, but I'm in no rush. The only point I can agree on is that Stillen's customer service sucks overall. They don't answer the phones, they don't return phone calls, they're rude, unhelpful, and 90% of them don't know jack.
I autox'ed with this kit for the 1st time this past weekend, and I realized I've got plenty of power for that type of racing. I'm going to have to relearn how to drive my car in an autox course. I got my times down throughout the day, but definitely found myself wishing the car was back to just N/A bolt-ons at points in the day. The cars there ran the gamut from beaters to purpose built cars, with driver's of varying experience and enthusiasm. Countless guys came by to check out my G, and see where the hell that jet engine sounds was coming from. Hey, when a seasoned Z-06 owner admit you have his vote for best sounding car of them all, you can't help but crack a smile

Lastly, the included SS box does have a port...you just have to remove a few screws to open the box to get to it. I played with it a few weeks ago, using SS's R4 software to fix some pinging issues. I'm actually going to do some dyno tuning tomorrow, hopefully to extract some more power. You can only play with the fuel and timing, but we'll see how it goes. You just need a 9-port serial cable and jack on your laptop (harder to find these days than you might think).
Last edited by Triple8Sol; May 1, 2007 at 12:55 AM.
Originally Posted by hyperz
All the people with Vortec are blowing motors left and right and very seldom do you hear of people blowing motors with stillen.
Originally Posted by sicdeusvult
There's a been a lot of vortech issues lately...
Originally Posted by JETPILOT
We haven't heard from the OP. I guess they didn't call him back either!!!
JET
JET
I got extremely bogged down with work and flirting with stillen wasn't my top priority.
I apologize, I'll call once I finish class @ 12:15 today.
Originally Posted by Triple8Sol
Lastly, the included SS box does have a port...you just have to remove a few screws to open the box to get to it. I played with it a few weeks ago, using SS's R4 software to fix some pinging issues. I'm actually going to do some dyno tuning tomorrow, hopefully to extract some more power. You can only play with the fuel and timing, but we'll see how it goes. You just need a 9-port serial cable and jack on your laptop (harder to find these days than you might think).
interested to see what you come up with,
not meaning to thread jack, is anyone running the stillen s/c with other bolt ons, like headers, cai and full cat back. ive heard bolt ons jurt its perfomance. and that the stillen kit was made for a stock car. just asking.
Originally Posted by hyperz
I dont care if it puts out less WHP or not. The kit is good for what it is supposed to be. It is designed to be a safe kit for your motor and that is what it is. All the people with Vortec and Greddy are blowing motors left and right and very seldom do you hear of people blowing motors with stillen. I will be adding one in the near future and dont plan on racing at the track or strip so it will do fine. If you bought your Z to track then you have way more money then I do, this is my only car and I cant afford to replace the motor at any given moment. That is what stillen has set out to help with and accomplished.
Originally Posted by Blk03G35
I never understood why Stillen didn't use a Whipple or kenne bell blower instead of the ****ty eaton
Originally Posted by abyss
because they want a 'safe' kit. The power Whipple and KB put out would annhialate a stock block. They could have atleast used a bigger eaton unit though.
Yea, I had the whipple on my SS Silverado@18 PSI till last week when I took it off since I have 90k miles on my truck now. One of these on a Z would be nasty fun. Full boost at just over 2k RPM and the sound. yummay. The reason Stillen kits dont produce power is because they want to add a little noticable power, but still be safe on the motor...which they warranty the motor iirc? Alot of people aren't into big #'s, and I respect that. As long as their butt dyno makes them happy that is all that counts.
You want something safe but still has a little bang go with the JWT TT set up I have had it for almost a year put 12k on the car with the turbo and Im running strong...Bert is right man, back in the day I looked at the stillen but its not worth it trust me there are way to many options out there now and if your that worry about somthing going wrong sell your car and get a vette or something else cause sh*t happens sometime. No way going around it.
In the dyno posted with the vortec vs. the roots of the stillen---I'll put my money on the Stillen in race from a stop.
I have a procharger on my C5 and make lots more peak hp than some friends with Magnachargers, but their power coming in at 2k and staying flat is alot different than the 45* curve with a centrifigal--mainly that we are even to about 100-120 then the difference is really seen. If you are making BIG power with a roots--600rwhp/700rwhp with a KB, then you can walk faster due to lack of traction.
I have a procharger on my C5 and make lots more peak hp than some friends with Magnachargers, but their power coming in at 2k and staying flat is alot different than the 45* curve with a centrifigal--mainly that we are even to about 100-120 then the difference is really seen. If you are making BIG power with a roots--600rwhp/700rwhp with a KB, then you can walk faster due to lack of traction.



