What's your expert opinion on the wet bearing for the Turbonetics turbine
I'd be interested to know your opinion, pro or con, if you have the wet bearing housing installed.
It seems like a good idea to reduce the oil temperature to help preserve the oil seals but does it work in practice without creating more problems?
Turbonetics seems to be doing a good job in making this feature available to customers on an as needed priority but is it worth waiting for if you are ordering a new kit?
It seems like a good idea to reduce the oil temperature to help preserve the oil seals but does it work in practice without creating more problems?
Turbonetics seems to be doing a good job in making this feature available to customers on an as needed priority but is it worth waiting for if you are ordering a new kit?
Originally Posted by bladerunner
I'd be interested to know your opinion, pro or con, if you have the wet bearing housing installed.
It seems like a good idea to reduce the oil temperature to help preserve the oil seals but does it work in practice without creating more problems?
Turbonetics seems to be doing a good job in making this feature available to customers on an as needed priority but is it worth waiting for if you are ordering a new kit?
It seems like a good idea to reduce the oil temperature to help preserve the oil seals but does it work in practice without creating more problems?
Turbonetics seems to be doing a good job in making this feature available to customers on an as needed priority but is it worth waiting for if you are ordering a new kit?
That kit will pump your motor so full of hot air, your head will spin. and then to add insult to injury, it will melt your A/C line in the process. Do yourself a favor and get a properly equipped TT setup that will offer you the mass air flow you will eventually crave.
If you like an additional 15-20 degree C intake temps, the extra thermal load and backpressure the 2.5" dump provides, melted A/C lines, getting to know your delivery guy VERY well as part after part after part that breaks will be overnighted to your door.... that is, if your motor holds together on the joke of a fuel system, and even worse attempt at an EMS with the horrible reflash setup that is associated with the kit.
I think TN coined the phrase "A fool and his money are easily parted......just look at how many fools bought our kit
edit: So my opinion is, it is not worth waiting for
Last edited by Zivman; Jul 6, 2007 at 06:00 PM.
I dont know man. I love my tubonetics kit. My car drives just like i wanted. I havent had any issues with it. I am even running on the reflash. But i put in 440cc injectors and had technosquare fash it for them. Ive been driving it for a year, and ive put 10,000 miles on my car with the kit. Maybe i just got lucky.
I would definately take them up on the offer. I dont see any drawbacks to using a water cooled center section, and possibly some good benefits.
Last edited by Sharif@Forged; Jul 6, 2007 at 07:12 PM.
Originally Posted by Zivman
If you haven't ordered the kit stop right where you are at and reevaluate the setup.
That kit will pump your motor so full of hot air, your head will spin. and then to add insult to injury, it will melt your A/C line in the process. Do yourself a favor and get a properly equipped TT setup that will offer you the mass air flow you will eventually crave.
If you like an additional 15-20 degree C intake temps, the extra thermal load and backpressure the 2.5" dump provides, melted A/C lines, getting to know your delivery guy VERY well as part after part after part that breaks will be overnighted to your door.... that is, if your motor holds together on the joke of a fuel system, and even worse attempt at an EMS with the horrible reflash setup that is associated with the kit.
I think TN coined the phrase "A fool and his money are easily parted......just look at how many fools bought our kit
"
edit: So my opinion is, it is not worth waiting for
That kit will pump your motor so full of hot air, your head will spin. and then to add insult to injury, it will melt your A/C line in the process. Do yourself a favor and get a properly equipped TT setup that will offer you the mass air flow you will eventually crave.
If you like an additional 15-20 degree C intake temps, the extra thermal load and backpressure the 2.5" dump provides, melted A/C lines, getting to know your delivery guy VERY well as part after part after part that breaks will be overnighted to your door.... that is, if your motor holds together on the joke of a fuel system, and even worse attempt at an EMS with the horrible reflash setup that is associated with the kit.
I think TN coined the phrase "A fool and his money are easily parted......just look at how many fools bought our kit
edit: So my opinion is, it is not worth waiting for
Oh wait that would mean we'd have a ton of issues and broken ringlands so I guess thats not the case. Give it up.
Last edited by MIAPLAYA; Jul 6, 2007 at 09:20 PM.
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Originally Posted by bladerunner
I'd be interested to know your opinion, pro or con, if you have the wet bearing housing installed.
It seems like a good idea to reduce the oil temperature to help preserve the oil seals but does it work in practice without creating more problems?
Turbonetics seems to be doing a good job in making this feature available to customers on an as needed priority but is it worth waiting for if you are ordering a new kit?
It seems like a good idea to reduce the oil temperature to help preserve the oil seals but does it work in practice without creating more problems?
Turbonetics seems to be doing a good job in making this feature available to customers on an as needed priority but is it worth waiting for if you are ordering a new kit?
Originally Posted by Zivman
If you haven't ordered the kit stop right where you are at and reevaluate the setup.
That kit will pump your motor so full of hot air, your head will spin. and then to add insult to injury, it will melt your A/C line in the process. Do yourself a favor and get a properly equipped TT setup that will offer you the mass air flow you will eventually crave.
If you like an additional 15-20 degree C intake temps, the extra thermal load and backpressure the 2.5" dump provides, melted A/C lines, getting to know your delivery guy VERY well as part after part after part that breaks will be overnighted to your door.... that is, if your motor holds together on the joke of a fuel system, and even worse attempt at an EMS with the horrible reflash setup that is associated with the kit.
I think TN coined the phrase "A fool and his money are easily parted......just look at how many fools bought our kit
"
edit: So my opinion is, it is not worth waiting for
That kit will pump your motor so full of hot air, your head will spin. and then to add insult to injury, it will melt your A/C line in the process. Do yourself a favor and get a properly equipped TT setup that will offer you the mass air flow you will eventually crave.
If you like an additional 15-20 degree C intake temps, the extra thermal load and backpressure the 2.5" dump provides, melted A/C lines, getting to know your delivery guy VERY well as part after part after part that breaks will be overnighted to your door.... that is, if your motor holds together on the joke of a fuel system, and even worse attempt at an EMS with the horrible reflash setup that is associated with the kit.
I think TN coined the phrase "A fool and his money are easily parted......just look at how many fools bought our kit
edit: So my opinion is, it is not worth waiting for
Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
You're hilarious. I guess all of us WITHOUT an issue in YEARS of running the kit must have secretely installed APS kits
Oh wait that would mean we'd have a ton of issues and broken ringlands so I guess thats not the case. Give it up.
Oh wait that would mean we'd have a ton of issues and broken ringlands so I guess thats not the case. Give it up.You want to compare my situation at 17+ psi (550-600whp) to the crap TN puts out??? almost comparable
TN is junky kit. You keep trying to change the subject and put attention on other manufacturer kits than actually admit what you back is complete garbage.
Say what you will about the APS single it isn't flawed in it's basic design. And keep in mind, we are talking about the TN kit, not APS-> you seem hell bent on talking about the APS setup. APS setup aside, TN is still crap
Originally Posted by andyisphat2004
im still new to FI, running with a TN kit for about 3 months now. I love the power, and havent had any real problems yet.
Wait till the turbo gives way, or you are having overboost issues, or maybe a bad reflash, or your wastegate breaks off, or your A/C line melts.....
Zivman is off-topic. Other comments have been helpful. So far, more PRO than CON.
This is about an option to have a watercooled jacket installed on a Turbonetics single turbo. Turbonetics is offering this on a limited basis-see the usefull thread from MIAPLAYA for more information.
Summary answers
Pro
Water cooling will only help on any turbocharged car. Is it mandatory, no. But with Turbonetics offering to set this up for you like they have I would do it. Water cooling will help keep the bearing temps lower increasing the life of your turbocharger.
Watercooling is a great way to dissipate heat.
I dont see any drawbacks to using a water cooled center section, and possibly some good benefits.
Con
Defintiely no drawbacks except for the plumbing.
This is about an option to have a watercooled jacket installed on a Turbonetics single turbo. Turbonetics is offering this on a limited basis-see the usefull thread from MIAPLAYA for more information.
Summary answers
Pro
Water cooling will only help on any turbocharged car. Is it mandatory, no. But with Turbonetics offering to set this up for you like they have I would do it. Water cooling will help keep the bearing temps lower increasing the life of your turbocharger.
Watercooling is a great way to dissipate heat.
I dont see any drawbacks to using a water cooled center section, and possibly some good benefits.
Con
Defintiely no drawbacks except for the plumbing.
Originally Posted by bladerunner
Zivman is off-topic. Other comments have been helpful. So far, more PRO than CON.
This is about an option to have a watercooled jacket installed on a Turbonetics single turbo. Turbonetics is offering this on a limited basis-see the usefull thread from MIAPLAYA for more information.
Summary answers
Pro
Water cooling will only help on any turbocharged car. Is it mandatory, no. But with Turbonetics offering to set this up for you like they have I would do it. Water cooling will help keep the bearing temps lower increasing the life of your turbocharger.
Watercooling is a great way to dissipate heat.
I dont see any drawbacks to using a water cooled center section, and possibly some good benefits.
Con
Defintiely no drawbacks except for the plumbing.
This is about an option to have a watercooled jacket installed on a Turbonetics single turbo. Turbonetics is offering this on a limited basis-see the usefull thread from MIAPLAYA for more information.
Summary answers
Pro
Water cooling will only help on any turbocharged car. Is it mandatory, no. But with Turbonetics offering to set this up for you like they have I would do it. Water cooling will help keep the bearing temps lower increasing the life of your turbocharger.
Watercooling is a great way to dissipate heat.
I dont see any drawbacks to using a water cooled center section, and possibly some good benefits.
Con
Defintiely no drawbacks except for the plumbing.
Originally Posted by Zivman
The wait is not worth it considering the kit is garbage from the start
Zivman...why do feel the need to ruin a thread just because YOU dont like a ST kit ? Seems you have been a good boy for quite a while . And here you go again.
Originally Posted by booger
Maybe he should go buy the TROUBLE FREE APS Single Turbo KIt ?
Zivman...why do feel the need to ruin a thread just because YOU dont like a ST kit ? Seems you have been a good boy for quite a while . And here you go again.
Zivman...why do feel the need to ruin a thread just because YOU dont like a ST kit ? Seems you have been a good boy for quite a while . And here you go again.
TN and Kinetix are two peas in a pod.
Originally Posted by Zivman
It isn't about APS. I would rather a person stay N/A than put their money into this kit. With all the BS that is spread in regards to this setup some truth doesn't hurt. You all want to turn it into a APS vs TN. That just isn't the case. TN vs anything is crap. Here is my take: misleading the customers into thinking it is complete out of box when it is missing at least 2 critical components??? Then misleading them again into believing there actually is a stage 2????? Oh, but when the kit starts falling apart, the boys at TN are right there to send out the parts... who cares. Like I stated before, with TN all you have is a warrantied POS!
TN and Kinetix are two peas in a pod.
TN and Kinetix are two peas in a pod.
Originally Posted by booger
Maybe he should go buy the TROUBLE FREE APS Single Turbo KIt ?
Zivman...why do feel the need to ruin a thread just because YOU dont like a ST kit ? Seems you have been a good boy for quite a while . And here you go again.
Zivman...why do feel the need to ruin a thread just because YOU dont like a ST kit ? Seems you have been a good boy for quite a while . And here you go again.
Originally Posted by bladerunner
Zivman is off-topic. Other comments have been helpful. So far, more PRO than CON.
This is about an option to have a watercooled jacket installed on a Turbonetics single turbo. Turbonetics is offering this on a limited basis-see the usefull thread from MIAPLAYA for more information.
Summary answers
Pro
Water cooling will only help on any turbocharged car. Is it mandatory, no. But with Turbonetics offering to set this up for you like they have I would do it. Water cooling will help keep the bearing temps lower increasing the life of your turbocharger.
Watercooling is a great way to dissipate heat.
I dont see any drawbacks to using a water cooled center section, and possibly some good benefits.
Con
Defintiely no drawbacks except for the plumbing.
This is about an option to have a watercooled jacket installed on a Turbonetics single turbo. Turbonetics is offering this on a limited basis-see the usefull thread from MIAPLAYA for more information.
Summary answers
Pro
Water cooling will only help on any turbocharged car. Is it mandatory, no. But with Turbonetics offering to set this up for you like they have I would do it. Water cooling will help keep the bearing temps lower increasing the life of your turbocharger.
Watercooling is a great way to dissipate heat.
I dont see any drawbacks to using a water cooled center section, and possibly some good benefits.
Con
Defintiely no drawbacks except for the plumbing.


