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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 05:51 PM
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Default What's your expert opinion on the wet bearing for the Turbonetics turbine

I'd be interested to know your opinion, pro or con, if you have the wet bearing housing installed.

It seems like a good idea to reduce the oil temperature to help preserve the oil seals but does it work in practice without creating more problems?

Turbonetics seems to be doing a good job in making this feature available to customers on an as needed priority but is it worth waiting for if you are ordering a new kit?
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by bladerunner
I'd be interested to know your opinion, pro or con, if you have the wet bearing housing installed.

It seems like a good idea to reduce the oil temperature to help preserve the oil seals but does it work in practice without creating more problems?

Turbonetics seems to be doing a good job in making this feature available to customers on an as needed priority but is it worth waiting for if you are ordering a new kit?
If you haven't ordered the kit stop right where you are at and reevaluate the setup.

That kit will pump your motor so full of hot air, your head will spin. and then to add insult to injury, it will melt your A/C line in the process. Do yourself a favor and get a properly equipped TT setup that will offer you the mass air flow you will eventually crave.

If you like an additional 15-20 degree C intake temps, the extra thermal load and backpressure the 2.5" dump provides, melted A/C lines, getting to know your delivery guy VERY well as part after part after part that breaks will be overnighted to your door.... that is, if your motor holds together on the joke of a fuel system, and even worse attempt at an EMS with the horrible reflash setup that is associated with the kit.

I think TN coined the phrase "A fool and his money are easily parted......just look at how many fools bought our kit "

edit: So my opinion is, it is not worth waiting for

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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 06:21 PM
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I dont know man. I love my tubonetics kit. My car drives just like i wanted. I havent had any issues with it. I am even running on the reflash. But i put in 440cc injectors and had technosquare fash it for them. Ive been driving it for a year, and ive put 10,000 miles on my car with the kit. Maybe i just got lucky.
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I would definately take them up on the offer. I dont see any drawbacks to using a water cooled center section, and possibly some good benefits.

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Watercooling is a great way to dissipate heat.Defintiely no drawbacks except for the plumbing.
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Originally Posted by Zivman
If you haven't ordered the kit stop right where you are at and reevaluate the setup.

That kit will pump your motor so full of hot air, your head will spin. and then to add insult to injury, it will melt your A/C line in the process. Do yourself a favor and get a properly equipped TT setup that will offer you the mass air flow you will eventually crave.

If you like an additional 15-20 degree C intake temps, the extra thermal load and backpressure the 2.5" dump provides, melted A/C lines, getting to know your delivery guy VERY well as part after part after part that breaks will be overnighted to your door.... that is, if your motor holds together on the joke of a fuel system, and even worse attempt at an EMS with the horrible reflash setup that is associated with the kit.

I think TN coined the phrase "A fool and his money are easily parted......just look at how many fools bought our kit "

edit: So my opinion is, it is not worth waiting for
You're hilarious. I guess all of us WITHOUT an issue in YEARS of running the kit must have secretely installed APS kits Oh wait that would mean we'd have a ton of issues and broken ringlands so I guess thats not the case. Give it up.

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Originally Posted by bladerunner
I'd be interested to know your opinion, pro or con, if you have the wet bearing housing installed.

It seems like a good idea to reduce the oil temperature to help preserve the oil seals but does it work in practice without creating more problems?

Turbonetics seems to be doing a good job in making this feature available to customers on an as needed priority but is it worth waiting for if you are ordering a new kit?
Water cooling will only help on any turbocharged car. Is it mandatory, no. But with Turbonetics offering to set this up for you like they have I would do it. Water cooling will help keep the bearing temps lower increasing the life of your turbocharger.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 09:35 PM
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im still new to FI, running with a TN kit for about 3 months now. I love the power, and havent had any real problems yet.
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Originally Posted by Zivman
If you haven't ordered the kit stop right where you are at and reevaluate the setup.

That kit will pump your motor so full of hot air, your head will spin. and then to add insult to injury, it will melt your A/C line in the process. Do yourself a favor and get a properly equipped TT setup that will offer you the mass air flow you will eventually crave.

If you like an additional 15-20 degree C intake temps, the extra thermal load and backpressure the 2.5" dump provides, melted A/C lines, getting to know your delivery guy VERY well as part after part after part that breaks will be overnighted to your door.... that is, if your motor holds together on the joke of a fuel system, and even worse attempt at an EMS with the horrible reflash setup that is associated with the kit.

I think TN coined the phrase "A fool and his money are easily parted......just look at how many fools bought our kit "

edit: So my opinion is, it is not worth waiting for
He didnt ask if he should go with twins or single turbo setup. Stay on topic and dont ruin his thread.
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
You're hilarious. I guess all of us WITHOUT an issue in YEARS of running the kit must have secretely installed APS kits Oh wait that would mean we'd have a ton of issues and broken ringlands so I guess thats not the case. Give it up.

You want to compare my situation at 17+ psi (550-600whp) to the crap TN puts out??? almost comparable

TN is junky kit. You keep trying to change the subject and put attention on other manufacturer kits than actually admit what you back is complete garbage.

Say what you will about the APS single it isn't flawed in it's basic design. And keep in mind, we are talking about the TN kit, not APS-> you seem hell bent on talking about the APS setup. APS setup aside, TN is still crap
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Originally Posted by andyisphat2004
im still new to FI, running with a TN kit for about 3 months now. I love the power, and havent had any real problems yet.

Wait till the turbo gives way, or you are having overboost issues, or maybe a bad reflash, or your wastegate breaks off, or your A/C line melts.....
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 05:33 AM
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Zivman is off-topic. Other comments have been helpful. So far, more PRO than CON.

This is about an option to have a watercooled jacket installed on a Turbonetics single turbo. Turbonetics is offering this on a limited basis-see the usefull thread from MIAPLAYA for more information.

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Water cooling will only help on any turbocharged car. Is it mandatory, no. But with Turbonetics offering to set this up for you like they have I would do it. Water cooling will help keep the bearing temps lower increasing the life of your turbocharger.
Watercooling is a great way to dissipate heat.
I dont see any drawbacks to using a water cooled center section, and possibly some good benefits.

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Defintiely no drawbacks except for the plumbing.
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Originally Posted by bladerunner
Zivman is off-topic. Other comments have been helpful. So far, more PRO than CON.

This is about an option to have a watercooled jacket installed on a Turbonetics single turbo. Turbonetics is offering this on a limited basis-see the usefull thread from MIAPLAYA for more information.

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Water cooling will only help on any turbocharged car. Is it mandatory, no. But with Turbonetics offering to set this up for you like they have I would do it. Water cooling will help keep the bearing temps lower increasing the life of your turbocharger.
Watercooling is a great way to dissipate heat.
I dont see any drawbacks to using a water cooled center section, and possibly some good benefits.

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Defintiely no drawbacks except for the plumbing.
The wait is not worth it considering the kit is garbage from the start
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Zivman
The wait is not worth it considering the kit is garbage from the start
Maybe he should go buy the TROUBLE FREE APS Single Turbo KIt ?

Zivman...why do feel the need to ruin a thread just because YOU dont like a ST kit ? Seems you have been a good boy for quite a while . And here you go again.
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Originally Posted by booger
Maybe he should go buy the TROUBLE FREE APS Single Turbo KIt ?

Zivman...why do feel the need to ruin a thread just because YOU dont like a ST kit ? Seems you have been a good boy for quite a while . And here you go again.
It isn't about APS. I would rather a person stay N/A than put their money into this kit. With all the BS that is spread in regards to this setup some truth doesn't hurt. You all want to turn it into a APS vs TN. That just isn't the case. TN vs anything is crap. Here is my take: misleading the customers into thinking it is complete out of box when it is missing at least 2 critical components??? Then misleading them again into believing there actually is a stage 2????? Oh, but when the kit starts falling apart, the boys at TN are right there to send out the parts... who cares. Like I stated before, with TN all you have is a warrantied POS!


TN and Kinetix are two peas in a pod.
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lol
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Originally Posted by Zivman
It isn't about APS. I would rather a person stay N/A than put their money into this kit. With all the BS that is spread in regards to this setup some truth doesn't hurt. You all want to turn it into a APS vs TN. That just isn't the case. TN vs anything is crap. Here is my take: misleading the customers into thinking it is complete out of box when it is missing at least 2 critical components??? Then misleading them again into believing there actually is a stage 2????? Oh, but when the kit starts falling apart, the boys at TN are right there to send out the parts... who cares. Like I stated before, with TN all you have is a warrantied POS!


TN and Kinetix are two peas in a pod.
Please, for as much crap as you talk to me about being on Turbonetics pay roll you are clearly on APS payroll. Love for the community and members my ***. I don't see you telling APS owners to buy a better turbo kit when their turbos smoke out of box or the kits don't hold the boost APS says they do without someone else's actuator. Who are you really kidding here? Get a life already no one cares for your blathering anymore. Its annoying at best. I guess my "incomplete" turbo kit must be REALLY bad since I'm on year 2+ with over 70,000 miles with no failures while you can't keep from breaking your car with your "superior" turbo kit.
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Originally Posted by booger
Maybe he should go buy the TROUBLE FREE APS Single Turbo KIt ?

Zivman...why do feel the need to ruin a thread just because YOU dont like a ST kit ? Seems you have been a good boy for quite a while . And here you go again.
Agreed. Is he really THAT bored because his car broke AGAIN that he needs to waste bandwith.
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Originally Posted by bladerunner
Zivman is off-topic. Other comments have been helpful. So far, more PRO than CON.

This is about an option to have a watercooled jacket installed on a Turbonetics single turbo. Turbonetics is offering this on a limited basis-see the usefull thread from MIAPLAYA for more information.

Summary answers

Pro
Water cooling will only help on any turbocharged car. Is it mandatory, no. But with Turbonetics offering to set this up for you like they have I would do it. Water cooling will help keep the bearing temps lower increasing the life of your turbocharger.
Watercooling is a great way to dissipate heat.
I dont see any drawbacks to using a water cooled center section, and possibly some good benefits.

Con
Defintiely no drawbacks except for the plumbing.
Zivman take a hint. The OP doesn't appreciate you crapping on his thread either.
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