Stillen giving away Disneyland vacations with supercharger purchase
Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
Really? Show me these statistics then. I got my info straight from the owner of Nissan Sport Magazine. I know a ton of people with Stillen's, that are reliable. And I have never ever heard of any blown motors with Stillens that were installed properly.
I was definitely not wrong on anything I said. You though are. Stillens makes more power lower and mid range than any other SC package dyno proven. The Vortech's require you to build boost by RPM. The Stillen's you do not and get full boost from idle. At high RPMs, around 5.5k+ the Stillen will start to drop a little.
And again Stillens does make 350~ range to the wheels if installed properly.
If you got a Stage 1, then yes 300 at the wheels is about right, Stage 2 325~, Stage 3, 350~.
I was definitely not wrong on anything I said. You though are. Stillens makes more power lower and mid range than any other SC package dyno proven. The Vortech's require you to build boost by RPM. The Stillen's you do not and get full boost from idle. At high RPMs, around 5.5k+ the Stillen will start to drop a little.
And again Stillens does make 350~ range to the wheels if installed properly.
If you got a Stage 1, then yes 300 at the wheels is about right, Stage 2 325~, Stage 3, 350~.
Originally Posted by TUNER350
the reason Stillen is bashed is because for a couple more G's you have a serious set-up...people like to get what they pay for..honestly i wouldnt pay money for a limited setup...i want high HP and not just level off and a moderate hp thousands and thousands of dollars later on realizing WTF why cant a squeeze more hp out of this thing!!! Thats why stillen s bashed. Bc the cost versus the outcome are pretty bad!!!
BTW zprincess did you ever get your rims? bc i think a set TE or LE would look hott on the ride
BTW zprincess did you ever get your rims? bc i think a set TE or LE would look hott on the ride
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Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
The average are like 20 to Vortech to 1 Stillen Blown. Much more with Vortech and ATI setups than Stillens. It's RARE.
Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
I agree. If you want a high POWER setup, then Stillens is not the way to go. If you want a reliable setup that you can bolt on and go from your house then Stillen's is the way to go.
Originally Posted by Alberto
SOLO-dont be a mag racer/quote them! Post ONE DYNOJET plot of a 350whp Stillen and Id be impressed. Truth is Ive been on this site over 4 years and never seen it. Closest Ive seen was actually Keith with his Stage 4 doing 341WHP on a DYNAPACK that reads hub hp, not whp, so it read higher than usual. Truth is most Stage 4 kits are 310-325whp, not close to 350whp at all!
I have been here since 2003 on both Driver and 350z. I have seen many. Obviously you never paid attention to it well.
lol! You make me laugh. There were a TON of Vortech setups that blew and especially ATI ones. It is a known fact the Stillen is the most reliable. Doesn't mean it can't blow, but it is the most reliable setup.
And because you said I know is not considered a fact.
30-50 more than Stillen on PEAK hp that is it. I look at the average MEAN over the whole powerband when comparing the setups and the Stillen produced the most.
And because you said I know is not considered a fact.
30-50 more than Stillen on PEAK hp that is it. I look at the average MEAN over the whole powerband when comparing the setups and the Stillen produced the most.
Originally Posted by doug
keyword: I know of
in any event.. i am going to do you one better.. find me 2 blown motors due to a Vortech Supercharger..
*crickets* *crickets*
don't worry.. i will wait.. i have all day
dyno queen? when every form of Forced Induction on this board puts out 30 - 50whp more out of the box than Stillen, i would hardly call them dyno queens.
i am not sure if you skipped math class, however 10whp subtracted from 300whp is 290whp .. go back and read my post.
if you can find me a Stillen Stage 1 that puts out 330 whp.. i will show you a small colony of highly intelligent chimps living on Mars.
the Kinetic Manifold is a quality piece also, but if its not putting out enough power for its cost then i am going to let people know about it, just like the stillen SC.. FYI i did not bash the product, i meerly stated facts about its performance and cost
i am not sure what you are talking about here.. but ok
in any event.. i am going to do you one better.. find me 2 blown motors due to a Vortech Supercharger..
*crickets* *crickets*
don't worry.. i will wait.. i have all day
dyno queen? when every form of Forced Induction on this board puts out 30 - 50whp more out of the box than Stillen, i would hardly call them dyno queens.
i am not sure if you skipped math class, however 10whp subtracted from 300whp is 290whp .. go back and read my post.
if you can find me a Stillen Stage 1 that puts out 330 whp.. i will show you a small colony of highly intelligent chimps living on Mars.
the Kinetic Manifold is a quality piece also, but if its not putting out enough power for its cost then i am going to let people know about it, just like the stillen SC.. FYI i did not bash the product, i meerly stated facts about its performance and cost
i am not sure what you are talking about here.. but ok
Originally Posted by doug
no actually its not. If you want a reliable setup for a good price you stay N/A
the others that are close to 300whp na have spent gobs. Im surprised there hasnt been a "how to i get 300whp na" thread lately. Cams, heads, headers, tp, exhaust, intake,utec and tune will cost more then a reliable vortech setup. Stroker kit? how much is labor/parts on that.
Originally Posted by doug
I will paypal you $20 right now if you can give me 20 cases of .. wait you said 20 to 1 .. so by zprincess standards of only 2 blown motors.. i will paypal you $200 if you can find me 40 cases of motors blown by Vortech SC's
Originally Posted by doug
please provide comparison dyno's for your claims.
How about showing your statistics we are still waiting on.
Originally Posted by doug
no actually its not. If you want a reliable setup for a good price you stay N/A
lol! You make me laugh. There were a TON of Vortech setups that blew and especially ATI ones. It is a known fact the Stillen is the most reliable. Doesn't mean it can't blow, but it is the most reliable setup.[/QUOTE]
let me tell you something, because you are ignorant.. you want to know how i know that there aren't many blown Vortech's? I was arguing with Sentry and he told me i was wrong about Vortech.. and i told him he was full of it.. and i sat down for 1 hour searching and researching all the blown setups posted on this board.. and you know what i came up with? he was right. Vortech is probably the safest FI System on this board as far as blown motors. Stillen was second.. but Stillen had more blown motors than Vortech.. i suggest next time you spend an hour researching before you spout your ignorance.
no because i took the time to research it
please provide dynos and stop talking out your as$
let me tell you something, because you are ignorant.. you want to know how i know that there aren't many blown Vortech's? I was arguing with Sentry and he told me i was wrong about Vortech.. and i told him he was full of it.. and i sat down for 1 hour searching and researching all the blown setups posted on this board.. and you know what i came up with? he was right. Vortech is probably the safest FI System on this board as far as blown motors. Stillen was second.. but Stillen had more blown motors than Vortech.. i suggest next time you spend an hour researching before you spout your ignorance.
Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
And because you said I know is not considered a fact.
Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
30-50 more than Stillen on PEAK hp that is it. I look at the average MEAN over the whole powerband when comparing the setups and the Stillen produced the most.
Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
What kind of dumb info is that? We are talking F/I setups here not N/A. LOL!
ive dont a bit of reading about vortech issues, not many blown engines with vortech just busted superchargers.
i had to make a decision of vortech or stillen. Stillen sounds great, but the lack of upgradeability and power gains steered me away.
now, there is one guy claiming like 400whp on stillen, something about uping the injectors.
i had to make a decision of vortech or stillen. Stillen sounds great, but the lack of upgradeability and power gains steered me away.
now, there is one guy claiming like 400whp on stillen, something about uping the injectors.
Funny, I hardly seen any Stillens on this forum, and I see Vortech or ATI blowing left and right. LOL! You rarely hear about any Stillen setups blowing. Rarely. Seems to me your the ignorant one posting false information.
Originally Posted by doug
judging from the fact Stillen makes 10 to 20 whp more.. why waste your time spending thousands of dollars and getting a new hood... Stillen is so weak it shouldn't even be considered F/I.
Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
Funny, I hardly seen any Stillens on this forum, and I see Vortech or ATI blowing left and right. LOL! You rarely hear about any Stillen setups blowing. Rarely. Seems to me your the ignorant one posting false information.
i challenged you to find me threads of blown motors by Vortech vs blown motors by Stillen, so far you haven't done so.. however you found the time to add my quote to your sig.. thanks i appreciate it. However i am waiting for your research results
Originally Posted by doug
as i said.. i have done the research.. i am not going to dig up the thread where i have them all posted.. but go ahead and prove me wrong by searching..
i challenged you to find me threads of blown motors by Vortech vs blown motors by Stillen, so far you haven't done so.. however you found the time to add my quote to your sig.. thanks i appreciate it. However i am waiting for your research results
i challenged you to find me threads of blown motors by Vortech vs blown motors by Stillen, so far you haven't done so.. however you found the time to add my quote to your sig.. thanks i appreciate it. However i am waiting for your research results
No sir actually you prove me wrong since your the one that came in here to argue about it. Back your statements up with facts. You need to do it because your the one that said it was wrong.