stock block + greddytt+ nitrous = fun!!
Originally Posted by Alberto
So how much timing did you pull for that small shot?
I gotta be honest, Id love some N20 for getting out of the hole (until an EM comes out I like with a working 2 step) and for those REALLY fast guys I may come across. Sucks more tuners dont try new things man...
I gotta be honest, Id love some N20 for getting out of the hole (until an EM comes out I like with a working 2 step) and for those REALLY fast guys I may come across. Sucks more tuners dont try new things man...
And as far as pulling timing, depends how aggressive your tune is. Unless you are on the very ragged edge, 0-1 degrees.
This particular customers car is actually a greddy TT setup, so I dont think his top end is suffering.
Jeremey, I do understand the instant torque idea though, and how that would make more of an advantage for the dragstrip. I suppose the two setups are a little more different then what I may be making it sound.
Jeremey, I do understand the instant torque idea though, and how that would make more of an advantage for the dragstrip. I suppose the two setups are a little more different then what I may be making it sound.
i am going for my fcon training very very soon. i have played with all types of EM and i WILL have the two step working on it immediately. thats one main reason that i wanted to offer it.
AEM has a working two step as well and fully controls nitrous. another great option that Sound Performance is offering.
AEM has a working two step as well and fully controls nitrous. another great option that Sound Performance is offering.
Originally Posted by Alberto
Who says its more efficient do you have proof? If its set up for the 1/4 mile, how gay is it to wait 10 minutes for your bottle pressure to raise back up to optimal before your next run? You dont have that issue with meth-the meth will last muc hlonger than the N20. What about on the street? If your relying on that N20 vs a fast car every run you will be slower due to bottle pressure dropping and not having a chance to go up. I dunno how much drag racing you do/have done, but I care about consistency, I dont accept a personal best until I run within .1 of that time. And before you tell me that turbo alone will heat soak Ive run 2 11.99's back to back hot lapping on a 100 degree day. Different mindsets I suppose, you take your N20, I'll take a meth map and I'll beat you 9/10....
The main reason I'd like a meth kit over NO2 if turning up the boost was an option, is because its easier to maintain/fill.
Alberto, if you buy a high output bottle heater, you shouldn't have bottle pressure issues of which you're speaking. If I run at 1100 psi and keep the heater on it will fall to about 1025 at the end of the run. By the time I get back around the bottle pressure is golden. However, some bottle heaters just can't get the job done.
High pressure heater huh? I'll look into that, of course the shot you run also has a HUGE impact on how much pressure drops, a 35 shot won thave the issue as much as a 100+. My buddy runs the reg NX heater that comes in the Gen X package, and he runs 100 shot and it drops like 200 or more psi after a run spraying through 3 gears-even with a full bottle....thanks for the info.
Originally Posted by Alberto
High pressure heater huh? I'll look into that, of course the shot you run also has a HUGE impact on how much pressure drops, a 35 shot won thave the issue as much as a 100+. My buddy runs the reg NX heater that comes in the Gen X package, and he runs 100 shot and it drops like 200 or more psi after a run spraying through 3 gears-even with a full bottle....thanks for the info.
Scroll down, the black one is the super high output. It's $20 more than the standard.
http://www.dynotunenitrous.com/store...p?idproduct=17
I spray out the hole and through all 4 gears. My times stay pretty consistent until about 5-6 full runs. Then, pressure will drop like a rock after that.
Your point on the jet size is critical, too. If I run a 50shot on top of 9-10lbs. of boost w/ the Turbonetics Kit, I feel that I'll be able to get more than 6 runs in If i wanted with no problem.
I do think your over-stating the inconvenience of NO2, though. Just because a car has NO2 doesn't mean its not a viable street killer. I'm sure I'll kill a ton of cars when I complete the Install. I'm just stoked too have 400whp all the time, now and NO2 for the cars that think they're fast.
Originally Posted by bacalhau16
One350Zfan, do you feel confident that your motor will hold together, even after spraying it for a while. Or do you have a built motor in the works?
Do I feel confident, a little bit I guess. I sprayed over 100 times at least for a whole year. A 1/3 of those were 150 shot w/ 109 octane and the motor never registered knock on any of my data logs.
However, I've seen what the factory rods look like so I'm not overly optimistic. But thats the kicker! I've seen motors go under 400whp and I've seen motors last well above that.
I think I can run 10's or damn close too it with about 480hp/480trq. I think with conservative tunes on 109 octane I can keep it together for some time. But just think, since I turn my own wrenches, I can swap in 3-4 stock motors for the price of a build and thats not taking into account how cheap stock VQ's will be in a year or two.
It has only been running a little while, give it some time to see if it lasts.
I think it is not so much of whether it is safe to run like this or higher boost, a lot of the failures at 450 RWHP or so can probably be attributed to weak stock engine parts not whether the tune was safe or not, I think that knowing that engines have failed at such power levels it is probably not the best choice to go there even with nitrous or more boost.
I think it is not so much of whether it is safe to run like this or higher boost, a lot of the failures at 450 RWHP or so can probably be attributed to weak stock engine parts not whether the tune was safe or not, I think that knowing that engines have failed at such power levels it is probably not the best choice to go there even with nitrous or more boost.
I agree, that obviously there are parts in the motor which are weak, but a tune has almost everything to do with the longevity of a motor IMO. There have been some cases which you just scratch your head and wonder why, but I think a lot of it has to do with a poor tune. Bouncing off of the rev-limiter doesnt help all that much either though.
oh believe me, i told the person that was driving this car that it was dangerous. we actually set buckets under the car to catch parts as a joke. 
the tune is very important on keeping things together BUT, you cant help weak stock parts with the tune. you can only do everything possible to prolong its failure at these power levels.
its not a question of if, its more like when.
race gas helps a lot though....
i think he is going to the track tonight if it finally stops raining here in florida damn it
the tune is very important on keeping things together BUT, you cant help weak stock parts with the tune. you can only do everything possible to prolong its failure at these power levels.its not a question of if, its more like when.
race gas helps a lot though....
i think he is going to the track tonight if it finally stops raining here in florida damn it
we actually are setting up a Vortech/nitrous car right now....
the nitrous will help A LOT with the lack of tq on the Vortech..
if you need to set it up or need any help, feel free to let me know!!
the nitrous will help A LOT with the lack of tq on the Vortech..
if you need to set it up or need any help, feel free to let me know!!
let me know if you need any help man, i am hear to help.
i WILL be one of the first people on the vpro, leaving on the 2 step on a BIG BIG shot of nitrous...
better believe that
i WILL be one of the first people on the vpro, leaving on the 2 step on a BIG BIG shot of nitrous...
better believe that
i was impressed by the actual gain off of only a 35hp shot. i'm hoping to get the car back together with new paint and everything else in about 4-5 weeks, then the v-pro goes in. so ya better hurry up if ya wanna beat me to it, hahhaa.
haha, monday i will be installing my first of four i have sitting there, should be fun, i might let AJ borrow mine for a couple weeks till i get my motor together....
