Pics of VRT working out of Mikes House!
Originally Posted by Navygolf13
He did contact me about insurance and that was this week and it was the first time we spoke in a while. I do not want to get into it here but my attitude towards them is neutral right now. I want things cleared up before I have any relation with them. I dont think that is understood right now. I dont have any relation with them and I dont think I will until this is all settled.
I have asked him about the allegations and he is saying something totally different than the opinion here. Not a big surprise. We will see how it all plays out, that is all we can do....ya know? But for the time being I am trying to stay neutral as best as can be, but there is no business going on between me and VRT until this is all settled one way or the other.
I have asked him about the allegations and he is saying something totally different than the opinion here. Not a big surprise. We will see how it all plays out, that is all we can do....ya know? But for the time being I am trying to stay neutral as best as can be, but there is no business going on between me and VRT until this is all settled one way or the other.
you're working so hard to establish the legality of running a shop out of one's house, but are you even looking at the conditions of the shop? i mean.. who the hell is going to want their car in a dusty area like that, hood-less, engine bay exposed to the elements, dogs running around crapping/pissing everywhere... you're one of those people who would defend a sweatshop staffed by underaged children if the law in that particular country made it legal.
do you work for VRT? why do you care so much, enough to be doing all this research and calling all these different government/NGO entities about certificates and licenses and whatnot. what, exactly, are you getting out of this? how much is VRT's owner paying you?
edit: i just read where you said there's nothing going on between you and VRT. ok, fine. i believe you.. i still don't get why you care so much, and how you can be blind to the fact that the conditions of the shop are still pretty despicable, despite how legal the existence of the shop may be.
do you work for VRT? why do you care so much, enough to be doing all this research and calling all these different government/NGO entities about certificates and licenses and whatnot. what, exactly, are you getting out of this? how much is VRT's owner paying you?
edit: i just read where you said there's nothing going on between you and VRT. ok, fine. i believe you.. i still don't get why you care so much, and how you can be blind to the fact that the conditions of the shop are still pretty despicable, despite how legal the existence of the shop may be.
+1 i dunno why you wrote does make a difference... for one whether there is a loophole that really makes it possible for a person to run legally a business from a house 
does he even have that paperwork you mentioned?, when it has been called into questioning that they had their paperwork in order when they even had a real shop...
It just shows clearly that the scams complains form the customers can only get worst now that their standard for QAQC dropped again...how much worst can it get? I think Tims point to post a picture of his house was to show that its not even the best conditions even if you had to settle to work out of mr A's house
does he even have that paperwork you mentioned?, when it has been called into questioning that they had their paperwork in order when they even had a real shop...It just shows clearly that the scams complains form the customers can only get worst now that their standard for QAQC dropped again...how much worst can it get? I think Tims point to post a picture of his house was to show that its not even the best conditions even if you had to settle to work out of mr A's house
Originally Posted by oneDIRTYz
you're working so hard to establish the legality of running a shop out of one's house, but are you even looking at the conditions of the shop? i mean.. who the hell is going to want their car in a dusty area like that, hood-less, engine bay exposed to the elements, dogs running around crapping/pissing everywhere... you're one of those people who would defend a sweatshop staffed by underaged children if the law in that particular country made it legal.
do you work for VRT? why do you care so much, enough to be doing all this research and calling all these different government/NGO entities about certificates and licenses and whatnot. what, exactly, are you getting out of this? how much is VRT's owner paying you?
edit: i just read where you said there's nothing going on between you and VRT. ok, fine. i believe you.. i still don't get why you care so much, and how you can be blind to the fact that the conditions of the shop are still pretty despicable, despite how legal the existence of the shop may be.
do you work for VRT? why do you care so much, enough to be doing all this research and calling all these different government/NGO entities about certificates and licenses and whatnot. what, exactly, are you getting out of this? how much is VRT's owner paying you?
edit: i just read where you said there's nothing going on between you and VRT. ok, fine. i believe you.. i still don't get why you care so much, and how you can be blind to the fact that the conditions of the shop are still pretty despicable, despite how legal the existence of the shop may be.
Originally Posted by IIQuickSilverII
+1 i dunno why you wrote does make a difference... for one whether there is a loophole that really makes it possible for a person to run legally a business from a house does he even have that paperwork you mentioned?, when it has been called into questioning that they had their paperwork in order when they even had a real shop...
It just shows clearly that the scams complains form the customers can only get worst now that their standard for QAQC dropped again...how much worst can it get? I think Tims point to post a picture of his house was to show that its not even the best conditions even if you had to settle to work out of mr A's house
does he even have that paperwork you mentioned?, when it has been called into questioning that they had their paperwork in order when they even had a real shop...It just shows clearly that the scams complains form the customers can only get worst now that their standard for QAQC dropped again...how much worst can it get? I think Tims point to post a picture of his house was to show that its not even the best conditions even if you had to settle to work out of mr A's house
when it has been called into questioning that they had their paperwork in order when they even had a real shop... What are you saying here? You mean someone asked if they had paperwork when they had the other shop? I dont remember reading it, but why does he have to prove that to you if you are not a customer?
It just shows clearly that the scams complains form the customers can only get worst now that their standard for QAQC dropped again Again, what are you trying to say? And what is QAQC?
I think Tim meant to do that as well as say it wasnt legal, or maybe someone else brought that up I am not sure. Bottom line is, it CAN be legal if done right. Whether the conditions are good or not it CAN be done. That is what I wanted to point out and if you dont believe me call the number I posted and call the BAR!
Originally Posted by Navygolf13
Okay so I got a call back and I was at the wrong place. You CAN get an EPA ID number in unincorporated areas of a county simply by filling out an application. The place to do it is Generator Services Department and the number is (916)255-4783.
So to recap BAR says they will license if you have EPA ID number, Employee Identification Number(if not a corporation you can use a social security number), and a sellers permit which you can get for a business out of your house. So, unless there is something else I am missing anyone can run a shop out of their house, Tim if you want more information let me know.
As for anything else debated here I dont want to get into it, I just wanted to point out that the people who said it was illegal were wrong and must not have looked into it. This is why I dont believe the first thing people say!
So to recap BAR says they will license if you have EPA ID number, Employee Identification Number(if not a corporation you can use a social security number), and a sellers permit which you can get for a business out of your house. So, unless there is something else I am missing anyone can run a shop out of their house, Tim if you want more information let me know.
As for anything else debated here I dont want to get into it, I just wanted to point out that the people who said it was illegal were wrong and must not have looked into it. This is why I dont believe the first thing people say!
Yeah!!! The truth has been found!!! Navygolf13 said he is neutral in this matter, so it must be true.
Originally Posted by Motormouth
that is a good explanation. wish you would have said that earlier when you mentioned he approached you.
Originally Posted by Navygolf13
when it has been called into questioning that they had their paperwork in order when they even had a real shop... What are you saying here? You mean someone asked if they had paperwork when they had the other shop? I dont remember reading it, but why does he have to prove that to you if you are not a customer?
no i am not a customer, yes their "name" is in the trash can here and they don't care for their reputation or answering the problems their customers had....
So i guess it also means i have to buy a turbo(probably used)
to get an answer
QAQC =
Quality assurance quality control
Originally Posted by IIQuickSilverII
lol you did read it... .thread is deleted now thanks to you
no i am not a customer, yes their "name" is in the trash can here and they don't care for their reputation or answering the problems their customers had....
So i guess it also means i have to buy a turbo(probably used)
to get an answer
QAQC =
Quality assurance quality control
no i am not a customer, yes their "name" is in the trash can here and they don't care for their reputation or answering the problems their customers had....
So i guess it also means i have to buy a turbo(probably used)
to get an answer
QAQC =
Quality assurance quality control
As for QAQC is that an agency to help keep shops honest? I am not familiar with it.
Originally Posted by Navygolf13
Okay sorry I dont remember reading it, and do me a favor and dont make this personal. I am not the only one responsible for having threads closed, I agree I had a part in it but so did you and everyone else who chose to go after me instead of satying on topic. So dont put the blame on me and lets keep this open and discuss rather than bash people okay?
As for QAQC is that an agency to help keep shops honest? I am not familiar with it.
As for QAQC is that an agency to help keep shops honest? I am not familiar with it.
nothin personal against you but you had a lot of fault with your blind(still nobody gets it) defending of vrt
, you saying you wont comment yet you keep on posting and posting and the flaming keep on going...qaqc is not an agency... just put work ethics...
Originally Posted by IIQuickSilverII
nothin personal against you but you had a lot of fault with your blind(still nobody gets it) defending of vrt, you saying you wont comment yet you keep on posting and posting and the flaming keep on going...
qaqc is not an agency... just put work ethics...
, you saying you wont comment yet you keep on posting and posting and the flaming keep on going...qaqc is not an agency... just put work ethics...
People who bashed me, you included had just as much fault in those threads being closed, if you would have left me out of it then most would still be open. You guys dont understand you can flame all you want but most of the things said about me or to me were wrong and unfounded....that is why I kept posting. I did not mean for things to get out of hand, but it is as much anyone elses fault as mine. Do you understand?
I understand about the qaqc now, and I agree with you that is how a business should be run.
edit* A lot of the things people have said about me here have been personal and that is another big problem I have with what went on. I know I may have gone overboard but I apologized for it and people have not said one word to me about the things said to me, so yeah I am going to be a little defensive of what goes on, sorry.
Last edited by Navygolf13; Aug 8, 2007 at 04:20 PM.
This is great nobody know if this setup is legal. Mr.A probably doesn't have any of the permits to have a legal shop there now. I'm sure he charges his customers the same rate as if he had all the overhead as a legit shop. And we have someone questioning all of this to possibly sell him some buisness insurance later, after the mess gets cleared up. Anything and everything about yrt is a joke. The only people that aren't laughing are the ones that got ripped off.
This thread is ridiculous. What has need to have been said has been said. All of these other opinions are really just that - opinions of people who really have no stake in or business debating the issue. 
Freaking close this thread!
It's just polluting this forum. Who cares about VRT, and this thread. This forum is turning into a trash bin.
Mods need to grow some and close these lame drama threads.
It's just polluting this forum. Who cares about VRT, and this thread. This forum is turning into a trash bin.
Mods need to grow some and close these lame drama threads.
