umm, Tim's is actually an enclosed area at least... and looks pretty big (camera angle)?

and what is with this beef? I got in trouble for doing this in threads so I would watch out, they are really touchy lately about hijacking threads for personal issues...

 

No personal issues, im just stating a fact..where is there a personal attack?

 

it's pretty apparent from the previous posts in this thread you are not happy with some product that tim gave you. I am just guessing, but that custom turbo kit you had to sell cause it didn't fit? or the RX8 that blew up?

again, same as navygolf... your posts reek of bias against tim. if not, why would you even say anything.

 

and I know jack about tim so I am not taking sides. but i do appreciate what he has done here even if there is some personal motivation on his part.

 

 

I agree that is a shop and you did answer my question, I was trying to get a feeling for what you guys thought, cause it seemed to me many would not even think about going to a shop on a residential property.

 

I think the paperwork can be done and no the homeowners policy would not cover that. However there are plenty of places to get many things insured and I think that would not be as hard as you may think.

 

The problem is not with business licenses or insurance but with the BAR and EPA. I don't see either of them allowing you to run a shop from your house. ESPECIALLY one out of a car port.

 

You are mistaken. Our shop is in Santee and my house and shop in the picture is in El cajon. Julian,why dont you and I just crush it right here and right now.I dont want to get into flame wars with you and I do not like the personal attacks.The other day you said I could not afford to be a sponser, and I am a sponser now. Now you are saying that I am bashing VRT for working out of a house and I am working out of my house.These things that you keep saying are incorrect. I mean honestly cant we just get along and stay out of each others way? Pretty please

 

My shop at my house is really big.It has 14 ft celieings,metal halide lighting,securty system and is 50' x 35'. I had some palns to extend it to 50' x 55'

 

You are not stating a fact! You dont know what you are talking about. Tim said in this thread it is not legal what MrA is doing. I am trying to find out for both of them what can and cant be done. I think that is MrA had everything in order and it was legal Tim would take back the legality comment. I think he would still have contentions with the type of shop it is at MrA's house, i.e. outside, not enclosed. Tim said his shop is 1500+ sqft at his house.

Comes across as a personal issue from your earlier posts and Tim as I am sure anyone else would rather work out of their house if the situation was right. I know I would!

 

 

I spoke with the BAR and they dont care as long as the shop has an EPA ID number and from my understanding the EPA will provide it if their conditions are met. I think the biggest hurdle is that if you live in a gated property like MrA then you would have to leave it open from what I could tell and the dogs may be a hinderance. Still trying to find the answer for these guys and to let you all know as well.

Not sure about the carport thing, but I know that could be enclosed pretty easy if that was the only hangup.....

 

Julian is a homo, dont worry bout him

 

 

does this make a difference? Its a low standard to have a house be also a shop...i still think its illegal... no go and find that loophole if you want..wont make a difference on the low standards under which vrt has been working and the low standards it has to take care of their customers

this is not attack to you...but jsut making the point of who cars to get to hung up on such a detail in the end... it aint going to make them any better than when they had an actual shop.

 

yeah, it is big I mean, our club's area is big too but yours is cool

(also, i do not own this space so it's not even the same!)

 

OMG, here we go again. READ BEFORE YOU POST!

Apparently you missed the point (yet again), so I will highlight it this time.--->You did not mention or address the BAR issue at all. And as tig488 pointed out, standard homeowners insurance probably will not cover an in-house car shop business. I have yet to see anyone (besides you) attempt to refute anything that TurboTim has stated reference the BAR requirements in the quote above.

I believe Tim's statment to be correct for two reasons:
1) California has some of the most strict environmental laws in the country.

2) If what Tim stated about the BAR license were untrue, somebody (especially another shop owner) would have called BS on it by now.

And now you're looking into the entire issue of an at-home shop on Tim's behalf?!?!?! C'MON!!! That's ... well, see my avatar.

This is far from the first time that you have claimed to be "looking for the truth" and "trying to educate" us in a VRT related thread.

You're credibility here = zero!!!

Give it up already! The meter is full!

 

I see others already pointed out the issues of the BAR and insurance before I completed my post.