APS or TURBONETICS
09-11-2007, 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by 350z_Showoff
But for some reason everybody rocks out the turrbonetics kit?
its the same single tn kit that keeps getting sold from member to member. It only lasts about a month on each car before its back on the classifieds. <<< lol, just a joke, not 100% true. Check the FI classifieds, its flooded with TN kits.
09-11-2007, 07:32 AM
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OP needs to list goals and budget...bercause if he is planing to stick with 350-400whp stock block setup... TN is a very good choice...chepaer than the aps tt easier to install and very appealing to the eye...
So basically ASP st.. not a fan of it..alouthg my friend don has made good numbers on that kit.. i think aps does make nice TT kis but $$$$...so tahts why OP must list his goals..cause if he is just going to be witha stock block setup with nice 350-400whp #s then my suggestion is TN kit.
So basically ASP st.. not a fan of it..alouthg my friend don has made good numbers on that kit.. i think aps does make nice TT kis but $$$$...so tahts why OP must list his goals..cause if he is just going to be witha stock block setup with nice 350-400whp #s then my suggestion is TN kit.
09-11-2007, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Blu_Blur
What is the median price for a TN full kit nowadays and a APS ST kit (full)?
Originally Posted by Blu_Blur
Do the latest TN kits utilise the Unichip yet?
09-11-2007, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Blu_Blur
What is the median price for a TN full kit nowadays and a APS ST kit (full)?
Do the latest TN kits utilise the Unichip yet?
Do the latest TN kits utilise the Unichip yet?
09-11-2007, 09:02 AM
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Here is my 2 cents, although I expect flak for this one. Whichever way you go, you need an EMS solution better then what's included in the setup. Expanding oil capacity (like a bigger oil pan) would help as well.
So why not get Greddy? Throw the e-manage on the e-bay, add a walbro pump and a BOV and you're all set, the extra money is going to be not that much in a grand scheme of things (likely less then a grand, that is too much, then maybe you should reconsider FI altogether) and the power potential in the long run will be far greater then with any of the current singles...
So why not get Greddy? Throw the e-manage on the e-bay, add a walbro pump and a BOV and you're all set, the extra money is going to be not that much in a grand scheme of things (likely less then a grand, that is too much, then maybe you should reconsider FI altogether) and the power potential in the long run will be far greater then with any of the current singles...
09-11-2007, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Oleg
Here is my 2 cents, although I expect flak for this one. Whichever way you go, you need an EMS solution better then what's included in the setup. Expanding oil capacity (like a bigger oil pan) would help as well.
So why not get Greddy? Throw the e-manage on the e-bay, add a walbro pump and a BOV and you're all set, the extra money is going to be not that much in a grand scheme of things (likely less then a grand, that is too much, then maybe you should reconsider FI altogether) and the power potential in the long run will be far greater then with any of the current singles...
So why not get Greddy? Throw the e-manage on the e-bay, add a walbro pump and a BOV and you're all set, the extra money is going to be not that much in a grand scheme of things (likely less then a grand, that is too much, then maybe you should reconsider FI altogether) and the power potential in the long run will be far greater then with any of the current singles...
That grand you probably have to add at least 500 more in prof install time to get the greddy kit in..
So yes potential of the kit ftw...no dissagreements...but if the OP is looking for a "safe" #s for the stock block... 350-400whp on a good tune..then best to go the single rout...my 2 cents..
09-11-2007, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by IIQuickSilverII
thats sorta a clitche... remember its a stock block setup... and yes things can go wrong you gotta prepare to spend money if block dies...but then because of that that grand is better if its in the pocket for other extras, gauges or more for a back up if the block dies...
That grand you probably have to add at least 500 more in prof install time to get the greddy kit in..
So yes potential of the kit ftw...no dissagreements...but if the OP is looking for a "safe" #s for the stock block... 350-400whp on a good tune..then best to go the single rout...my 2 cents..
That grand you probably have to add at least 500 more in prof install time to get the greddy kit in..
So yes potential of the kit ftw...no dissagreements...but if the OP is looking for a "safe" #s for the stock block... 350-400whp on a good tune..then best to go the single rout...my 2 cents..
Also, I don't belive that there is a 100% stock block safe FI. There could be an inherent factory defect or whatever. So why look ahead a bit and spend a little more on a setup that would be as safe of stock block as FI could be, yet have a greater potential just in case?
09-11-2007, 09:47 AM
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Why I bought APS ST:
1. I track my car occasionally, so didn't want to ruin the weight distribution.
2. Nissan engines run pretty hot... So I liked the fact that APS uses water cooled Garrett turbo and it's located near the transmission.
3. I wanted a kit that's easier to go back to stock. Thus I preferred piggyback ecu over ecu flash.
Here are what I did to fix the APS ST bugs...
Boost drop or overboost:
1. Got 2.5" true dual exhaust.
2. Replaced the actuator with the forge actuator with a yellow spring.
3. Got a good electronic boost controller. I went with HKS EVC.
Oil leaking from the scavenge pump:
Replaced the pump with turbowerx/mocal pump.
I seriously beat the crap out of my car... I drift, drag, and attend track days... and it's my daily driver. APS ST exceeded every expectations!
1. I track my car occasionally, so didn't want to ruin the weight distribution.
2. Nissan engines run pretty hot... So I liked the fact that APS uses water cooled Garrett turbo and it's located near the transmission.
3. I wanted a kit that's easier to go back to stock. Thus I preferred piggyback ecu over ecu flash.
Here are what I did to fix the APS ST bugs...
Boost drop or overboost:
1. Got 2.5" true dual exhaust.
2. Replaced the actuator with the forge actuator with a yellow spring.
3. Got a good electronic boost controller. I went with HKS EVC.
Oil leaking from the scavenge pump:
Replaced the pump with turbowerx/mocal pump.
I seriously beat the crap out of my car... I drift, drag, and attend track days... and it's my daily driver. APS ST exceeded every expectations!
09-11-2007, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Oleg
I did not mean to sound cliche. But it is my honest opinion that one should still have a couple of grand on reserve in case problems other the blown motor occur.
Also, I don't belive that there is a 100% stock block safe FI. There could be an inherent factory defect or whatever. So why look ahead a bit and spend a little more on a setup that would be as safe of stock block as FI could be, yet have a greater potential just in case?
Also, I don't belive that there is a 100% stock block safe FI. There could be an inherent factory defect or whatever. So why look ahead a bit and spend a little more on a setup that would be as safe of stock block as FI could be, yet have a greater potential just in case?
notice i said "safe" #s
thats why i was saying about OP stating goals... i mean most popel if they blow a block are not going to dump another 15k intoa build engine... they could jsut spend 4k on used engine abd put it back in the road...
I am not dissagreein with you really..its just up toe verybodys goals... remember less than 1% actually do build their block...so having the extra potential means nothin to most =]