yea i spoke to vinny ten b4 thanksgiving ..i was suppose to test drive their single and twin to see what the difference, but i got a flat..so thats a bit postponed ....so far everyone has been very helpful...greatly appreciated

 

i like them both i guess i will have to have one of each

 

you drove both? which one had a better power band? better top end/ give details man...lol

 

that powerlab 35r kit is looking bad *** from what i've seen...wonder if their placement of the turbo is efficient. hopefully no lines touch and melt...lol

 

Dude, just call MRC, tell them your budget and you're good to go...

 

You may also want to look at the aps twin turbo extreme kit. All the power potential you could want, has tons of mid range and high end power.

 

i actualy drove Alex's Z and i have unlimited access to my best friends single turbonetics G35. I have been driven in a couple of Jim wolf Twins Z. i would have to go with the jim wolf just because i perfer twins. i donot have any seat time in a twin to give you an accurate assessment. i would stick to american based companies for the obvious(spare parts in case of an accident can be literally overnighted if needed). also Vinny Ten Racing offers a line of supporting electronics(that means no cutting of harness, super clean installs)

 

i just saw that you had a 240..lol my boy got a 240 a red 97..if you go to the meets you prob know him

 

If you did a search than you would find all the dyno charts you ever wanted to see. That way you can make your own determination. No one has compiled this information.

JET

 

My setup made 530whp on a base tune over a week ago. The car is getting some piping replaced now and custom exhaust made so hopefully we'll be breaking that 600whp mark soon...

At this point I'm not even sure I'd call my turbo setup a Turbonetics kit as there is no original piping remaining. It's a Performance Factory kit with Turbonetics parts on it.

I agree on going with twins if you want 500+whp easily. I wouldn't recommend anyone take the hard road I have.

 

its not about dyno charts and all that bs. its about getting into two different setups and knowing the difference. but most of all knowing what you want. dynos are for fine tuning.

 

You are so lost!

Dyno sheets will show you the power curve. Where the power comes on and and where the power ends. Each turbo setup has it's distinct powerband. Start looking at dyno sheets and learn how to read them. It's not all about the numbers.

JET

 

+1

 

we are not talking about muitiple turbocharger setups. we were talking about the diference between two entry level kits. now he can go test drive both to see which one he likes. once he gets to the next level in his project which would be upgrading turbos then he can start reading dyno sheets.

 

Dude, to know the difference, the easiest way is to look at dynos of each type of setup. You get the basic idea of when, where, and how the kit produces it's power. He needs to learn that BEFORE spending thousands on a turbo kit.

Dyno's suck for fine tuning, BTW. They're good for getting you close. You fine tune on the road. Real world conditions=win.

 

Real world conditions=test drive both?plus he wants to make 550-600hp which means he will most likely going to bigger turbos. to be clear when he goes to Vinny's facility he will be provided with Dyno sheets(and everything will be fully explained to him).

 

For that power, your average twin turbo kit will get you there (like the ever-popular GReddy kit). He won't need to upgrade to bigger turbos. But he'll sure as hell need to build the engine.

I was talking real world as far as tuning, which you said that dynos are for fine tuning (they're not).

 

he will need a built engine for that power level for sure. but for now he needs to have fun and enjoy his car.

 

Vinny Ten sells Turbonetics and JWT. That means that he won't get any info on APS, Greddy, or SFR from Vinny Ten. The Turbonetics can't get him anywhere near his goal of 550-600whp. So that means he will be getting a JWT. I can see it now in my crystal ball.

As far as seat of the pants feel goes. A car which builds torque and horespower very quickly down low and dies up top can feel like a faster car that one that makes more power throughout the power band. Seat of the pants feel is not accurate.

The dyno chart will tell you how quickly a turbo spools when it reaches peak boost, and how far iinto the RPM range it will make that power.

With my Turbonetics kit @ 15psi I made huge HP and tourque down low, and it felt really really fast but the power fell off at 5200 rpm as the turbocharger ran out of it's efficiency envelope and backpressure started to build. Seat of the pants you would never have known that. Looking at the dyno run and it was quite evident.

The best way to pick the right kit is to educate yourself and know what you want.

It's hard to go wrong with a Greddy Kit. They are cheap, and can work at low boost on a stock motor making 400whp, or crank up the boost on a built motor w/cams and make 600whp. The turbo's spool up very quickly and don't run out of steam till about 6600RPM.

None of the singles out at this time will fill these needs. The powerlab single turbo is looking promising, but will likely be more expensive than the Greddy.

JET

 

Vinny has been a greddy dealer since the early 90's. fact is that JWT is a better kit(if you really want a greddy kit im sure he will sell you one). he has had customers with APS kits(wanting them out of course). he will be well educated at vinny's.