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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 06:11 PM
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so its kinda like a piggy back?
It is a standalone, in that it has complete fuel, ignition and cam timing control. It does not alter stock signals (maf, crank trigger) attempting to change the fuel/timing as a piggyback does. The oem ecu is retained to run the other functions of the car such as gauges, dbw, cruise, etc.
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Hal@IP
It is a standalone, in that it has complete fuel, ignition and cam timing control. It does not alter stock signals (maf, crank trigger) attempting to change the fuel/timing as a piggyback does. The oem ecu is retained to run the other functions of the car such as gauges, dbw, cruise, etc.
will you offer DBW in the future? haltech 32 bit can handle the computational speed needed for DBW.
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by rb26ina240
will you offer DBW in the future? haltech 32 bit can handle the computational speed needed for DBW.
DBW control has already been completed and driven, but for legal reasons it is not available right now. Unsure about the future.
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 09:48 PM
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so it's possible to throw away the MAF sensor and use a map sensor instead?
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 10:06 PM
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awesome results
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by accordfreak
so it's possible to throw away the MAF sensor and use a map sensor instead?
Yes..
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by accordfreak
so it's possible to throw away the MAF sensor and use a map sensor instead?

Originally Posted by MRC Motorsports
Yes..
You would need to add a IAT sensor if you were to remove the stock MAF.
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 07:02 AM
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I dunno why more shops that have now tuned with the Haltech havent messed with the VTC to actually use the unit to its potential. Its kind of upsetting more people arent doing these things.

Forcefed-could you post a graph with boost logged? What kind of power are you making and at what boost level on pump gas? Id love to see a graph of that as well. TIA
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
I dunno why more shops that have now tuned with the Haltech havent messed with the VTC to actually use the unit to its potential. Its kind of upsetting more people arent doing these things.

Forcefed-could you post a graph with boost logged? What kind of power are you making and at what boost level on pump gas? Id love to see a graph of that as well. TIA
The boost is logged on the original dyno chart I posted.

Using 93 octane (without any type of AI) 17-18psi is about where I stop on my current setup.
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 08:20 AM
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Wow 17psi on pump is nice. We are very close in peak power at 15psi, but I make much more TQ. Your numbers are 17psi arent too shabby. I LOVE the new numbers at 20psi are sick. For some reason I thought you had posted your track runs at Mason Dixon (old dyno) at 603whp were at 19psi/race gas, the chart shows 22psi...regardless, the set-up is nice, and after seeing what you trapped before I would say 134-135mph EASY now

edit-what exhaust are you running now?

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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
Wow 17psi on pump is nice. We are very close in peak power at 15psi, but I make much more TQ. Your numbers are 17psi arent too shabby. I LOVE the new numbers at 20psi are sick. For some reason I thought you had posted your track runs at Mason Dixon (old dyno) at 603whp were at 19psi/race gas, the chart shows 22psi...regardless, the set-up is nice, and after seeing what you trapped before I would say 134-135mph EASY now

edit-what exhaust are you running now?

Thanks. It's a single 4" we made. I haven't gotten the tuning completely finished yet. I'm using an old school HKS EVC IV for my boost controller, and boost response seems to be a bit slower with it on. Here's an overlay with the boost controller off compared to it on. What RPM are you making your peak torque?
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ForcefedZ
The boost is logged on the original dyno chart I posted.

Using 93 octane (without any type of AI) 17-18psi is about where I stop on my current setup.

This is a Greddy kit???
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 09:25 AM
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Greddy yes-Ive seen this car it ran 11.2 its first time out ever at our track day. He was trapping around 132mph with 600whp, cant wait to see what it does now.
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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Hal@IP
DBW control has already been completed and driven, but for legal reasons it is not available right now. Unsure about the future.
what about for a off road car?
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Originally Posted by rb26ina240
what about for a off road car?
We have looked into an off-road waiver and insurance, but that at this time it has been ruled out by Haltech.
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Originally Posted by ForcefedZ
Thanks. It's a single 4" we made. I haven't gotten the tuning completely finished yet. I'm using an old school HKS EVC IV for my boost controller, and boost response seems to be a bit slower with it on. Here's an overlay with the boost controller off compared to it on. What RPM are you making your peak torque?



Peak TQ at 15psi is about 4300-5000rpm's...that boost controller isnt helping you, at 4000rpm's I am roughly 100ft/lbs up on you, your missing that nasty midrange! Also keep in mind this was on a fresh motor (less than 500 miles) and stock FD, numbers could vary now.

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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
Peak TQ at 15psi is about 4300-5000rpm's...that boost controller isnt helping you, at 4000rpm's I am roughly 100ft/lbs up on you, your missing that nasty midrange! Also keep in mind this was on a fresh motor (less than 500 miles) and stock FD, numbers could vary now.

Nice torque numbers. The torque difference could be a couple of things(boost controller, camshaft profile, VTC tuning etc...) I have some wiring to sort out before I do anymore tuning. Overall I'm pretty happy with the torque curve as long as the power carries out to 8K. Hopefully sometime next week I'll have some new numbers, I'm going to find out just how much the 18G's will do with the wastegates pinned shut
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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 12:08 PM
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I run 1 bar springs for low boost, my EBC barely turns up the boost for "high boost", UTEC EMS, so stock VTC, JWt S1 cams. I look forward to your numbers, seeing your car run was awesome, we need to catch up at the beginning of next season and run em. No more low boost runs for me, time to step it up
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 06:51 AM
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What cams are the OP running?

I apologize in advance if it has already been stated and I simply overlooked it.
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by kwame@z1
What cams are the OP running?

I apologize in advance if it has already been stated and I simply overlooked it.

I'm running the BC stg2 cams, but I'd love to try their stg3 cams though.
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