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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 02:22 PM
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SGP=No bueno.....FP=Win. Be sure to give us a new write-up with all the details.
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 02:24 PM
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I'm going to take a shot in the dark as to why your motor let go: Mark advanced the timing way too much, had you running mid-10 afr's at WOT, and didn't hook your Knock Amp up to the Vpro.

Am I close?

BTW....I'm glad you are getting your car back, I'm sure you will be amazed at how much better the tune is, now that Sharif has tuned it.

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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris@FsP
I'm going to take a shot in the dark as to why your motor let go: Mark advanced the timing way too much, had you running mid-10 afr's at WOT, and didn't hook your Knock Amp up to the Vpro.

Am I close?

BTW....I'm glad you are getting your car back, I'm sure you will be amazed at how much better the tune is, now that Sharif has tuned it.
I am willing to bet you are right on the money with your "shot in the dark".
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 03threefiftyz
SGP=No bueno.....FP=Win. Be sure to give us a new write-up with all the details.
I will do just that, I would tell you some of the changes but I don't want to ruin the surprise, I was kind of hoping that Sharif would create one of those shop build threads but I know he is burning the candle at both ends these days.

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I'm going to take a shot in the dark as to why your motor let go: Mark advanced the timing way too much, had you running mid-10 afr's at WOT, and didn't hook your Knock Amp up to the Vpro.

Am I close?

BTW....I'm glad you are getting your car back, I'm sure you will be amazed at how much better the tune is, now that Sharif has tuned it.

Tune wasn't right, I was having to run race gas in the summer @ 5.5psi. I had an HKS EVC 6 that never worked and Mark @ SGP never sent off to get for the warranty. I got impatient and took my Z to a local shop in DFW to get a new boost controller installed, they didn't install it properly and less than an hour later KABOOM!!!
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 03:55 PM
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I have all the pics..shop build thread is coming!! See you tomorrow.
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MOTOWIPEOUT Z
I will do just that, I would tell you some of the changes but I don't want to ruin the surprise, I was kind of hoping that Sharif would create one of those shop build threads but I know he is burning the candle at both ends these days.




Tune wasn't right, I was having to run race gas in the summer @ 5.5psi. I had an HKS EVC 6 that never worked and Mark @ SGP never sent off to get for the warranty. I got impatient and took my Z to a local shop in DFW to get a new boost controller installed, they didn't install it properly and less than an hour later KABOOM!!!
Damn, thats a shitty story.. Sorry to hear..
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by MOTOWIPEOUT Z

Tune wasn't right, I was having to run race gas in the summer @ 5.5psi. I had an HKS EVC 6 that never worked and Mark @ SGP never sent off to get for the warranty. I got impatient and took my Z to a local shop in DFW to get a new boost controller installed, they didn't install it properly and less than an hour later KABOOM!!!
DFW shop?? humm....

Sorry to hear that brother! another FP's happy customer in DFW area. Hope see you on street!!!
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
I have all the pics..shop build thread is coming!! See you tomorrow.
Sweet, i'm headed out to the airport right now!

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Damn, thats a shitty story.. Sorry to hear..
**it happens! LOL

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DFW shop?? humm....

Sorry to hear that brother! another FP's happy customer in DFW area. Hope see you on street!!!
Don't want to give out any shop names but their initials are HPP.

I'll be around, holla!
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris@FsP
I'm going to take a shot in the dark as to why your motor let go: Mark advanced the timing way too much, had you running mid-10 afr's at WOT, and didn't hook your Knock Amp up to the Vpro.

Am I close?
Sounds like the timing may have been an issue.

Any problem with running AFR in the mid-10s??? That sounds like a nice comfort margin. I've always heard that an AFR of around 11 is good when at peak torque, but mid 10s is not rich enough to wash the cylinders, and seems like it will keep things nice and cool. (maybe not so fuel efficient, though).

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Old Sep 10, 2009 | 06:05 AM
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^^ Ya i was wondering that too. I am running ~11 at spring pressure and mid 10's on high boost...am I OK?
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Old Sep 10, 2009 | 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ttg35fort
Sounds like the timing may have been an issue.

Any problem with running AFR in the mid-10s??? That sounds like a nice comfort margin. I've always heard that an AFR of around 11 is good when at peak torque, but mid 10s is not rich enough to wash the cylinders, and seems like it will keep things nice and cool. (maybe not so fuel efficient, though).
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that it (by itself) had anything to do with the blown motor, although reading it back I can see how it may seem that way. Mark's tuning M.O. was to bump up the timing advance, and dump excess fuel in the cylinders to somewhat compensate. And with no knock feedback to the vpro, it is just a disaster waiting to happen. If my motor hadn't been built, the block would have self-ventilated itself soon after tuning. It blew the headgasket instead

There is nothing wrong with mid-10 afr's, just a little rich for my liking. I like my afr's at WOT to be in the low to mid 11's, with timing advance on the safe side.

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Old Sep 10, 2009 | 08:32 AM
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Congrats...
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Old Sep 10, 2009 | 11:11 AM
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pics or fail... lol
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Old Sep 10, 2009 | 11:59 AM
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So whats the verdict on the ceramic coating? Did it help prevent manifold cracking?
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Old Sep 11, 2009 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Chomorro
So whats the verdict on the ceramic coating? Did it help prevent manifold cracking?
No manifold cracking as far as I know but I did encounter some severe motor breakage, see pics below.





Originally Posted by unkn0wn ryder
pics or fail... lol
Ok here are a few teaser pics:






This is my old block, Chris @ Forged said that the heads were actually in worse shape.






A few pics of the car and motor during the build.












Crappy Proxes 4 tires were a limiting factor as far as end dyno results, Sharif said that they kept slipping no matter how well the car was strapped down.




I'm waiting to get these bad boys mounted on monday or tuesday.










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Old Sep 12, 2009 | 12:56 PM
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Looks good, I cant wait till I take my car to Sharif soon.

Have fun!
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Old Sep 12, 2009 | 01:06 PM
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U have 3" DPs?
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Old Sep 12, 2009 | 02:29 PM
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That's one nasty motor...lol

Glad that you are in good hands.
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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Juice+
Looks good, I cant wait till I take my car to Sharif soon.

Have fun!
Thanks and you have chosen your shop wisely.


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U have 3" DPs?
Yep 3" DP's, Mark@SGP traded me the downpipes and some 0.9bar wastegate spring for the crapped out EVC-6 back in November '09 before things started circling the drain. I guess I am one of the lucky ones as far as scamming goes.

Originally Posted by Chef-J
That's one nasty motor...lol

Glad that you are in good hands.
Thanks bro, Sharif is the man! The car is insane!
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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 07:57 AM
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nice.............
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