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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Pun1sh3RZ
isn't the intercooler rated to 700hp tops?
Nope. The intercooler is a 3-row core. There are many supras making 900 wheel on a greddy 3-row, or 3-rows with similar sizing.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by George@GTM
I wouldn't recommend upgrading the turbos (to a 20g) unless you plan on consistently making over 700rwhp. Just my opinion...
Could you explain why?
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ZRuggernDC
Could you explain why?
Because it's pointless. You are just going to add more lag to a setup that has been proven to make over 600rwhp no problem. That and the fact that their have been failures with the modified 20g turbochargers.

It just doesn't make since unless you are going for big power (over 700rwhp)

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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 04:12 PM
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Go big or go home.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by George@GTM
Because it's pointless. You are just going to add more lag to a setup that has been proven to make over 600rwhp no problem. That and the fact that their have been failures with the modified 20g turbochargers.

It just doesn't make since unless you are going for big power (over 700rwhp)

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I would agree unless you were to buy the greddy 20g turbos which are not modified
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by carlosG
I would agree unless you were to buy the greddy 20g turbos which are not modified
That's what I was wandering.. If you have the Greddy 18G installed already, if you were to get the Greddy 20G as a replacement what would be the issue?

This is me being curious as I may have some issues with my turbos. Want know for sure till Dave takes a look under the hood. But, preparing for some options.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 07:56 PM
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Are you going to be making over 700rwhp everyday?

If not than its pointless, you are just going to have worst boost response for no reason.

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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by George@GTM
Are you going to be making over 700rwhp everyday?

If not than its pointless, you are just going to have worst boost response for no reason.

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+1, not sure why they dont get this. i guess they like the bigger number 20g vs 18g?
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 08:12 PM
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Im very happy with my twin-baby 18 gizzles!
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 10:13 PM
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Nexx
+1, not sure why they dont get this. i guess they like the bigger number 20g vs 18g?
It's called information gathering..

George No not going to be making 700 to the wheels, will never make that much because Its just not a fantasy of mine to put down those kinds of numbers. So far the 18g turbos have me touching myself a nite just thinking about driving my car. Was just really curious to know what the 20g upgade problem would be. Thanks for the time to answer.
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Nexx
+1, not sure why they dont get this. i guess they like the bigger number 20g vs 18g?
they?
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 05:27 AM
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LOL @ people wanting to upgrade. Ive driven the upgraded Greddy kit and didnt personally like it. The lag it added vs the lack of top end punch you'd expect doesnt seem worthwhile. Not to mention out of the hundreds or thousands of Greddy kits, I have only seen 4 or 5 people (including myself) actually push the standard kit to the max.
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by QuadCam
the real problem is that even though you can ugrae the internals of the turbos, you are still stuck with that tiny 2" in/out turbine housing!

you be better off cutting off the 3bolt flange and have an expert welder weld pn a v-band adapter so that you could easily add a variety of turbos to those manifolds.
Would it be simpler to create an adapter plate to go from the 3 bolt Greddy Exhaust manifold flange to a larger diameter flange to accommodate another different style turbo?
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 06:20 AM
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P.S. If a rebuild or upgrade is in order go to Forced Performance.
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by rrmedicx
Would it be simpler to create an adapter plate to go from the 3 bolt Greddy Exhaust manifold flange to a larger diameter flange to accommodate another different style turbo?
that is the easy part.......

the hard part will be that the adapter will lower the turbo..........and is it is, there is very little room to get a pipe into the inlet of the turbo. I have thoguht of doing this....many, many, many times! the cast motor mount brackets are in the way. of course, you could make all new motor mount brackets too........but now you are talking about more sutom parts. at what point should you just have custom headers made (like the SFR) manifolds?

the only way not to lower the turbo with an adapter plate would be to cut off the mounting pad from the manifold and weld a new plate with a T3 or T4 flange onto the cast manifold. the problem with that is that most welders will tell you that you can't reliably weld to cast iron and expect it to last. you may get it to work, but it will eventually fail.

what to do!!!!
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Old Feb 14, 2009 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboSam
i KNOW i saw a thread a while back that had a few different places that either sold new turbos that would bolt to the GReddy manifolds, and others that upgraded the existing 18Gs to 20Gs etc. i cant find that thread again. so, if someone knows exactly which thread, or knows of places that have the turbos, that would be great, as i am afraid i might have to replace/rebuild one of the turbos from the used kit i got
I called Precision Turbo and Machine, and they sell ballbearing oil/water cooled turbos with the Mitsubishi flange on the turbine inlet. The guy I spoke to at Precision seemed to think that they would work with the Greddy exhaust manifolds, but someone else in this forum indicated that the Greddy turbos, which are Mitsubishi, do not use the standard Mitsubishi flange on the turbine intake, but instead use a flange that is exclusively unique to Greddy.

I have not looked into it further. You may ask Precision to send you a drawing of their turbine inlet flange and compare it to one or your Greddy turbos. Whatever you find out, please let us know.
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Old Feb 14, 2009 | 10:14 PM
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I talked to precision awhile ago about a turbo swap. Sent them pictures of the manifolds and the greddy turbos. When I talked to them on the phone after they reviewed the pictures, they said they did not have anything that would be compatible.
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 02:22 AM
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ill add NO2 on the kit and have more fun than the upgrade 20G
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by ttg35fort
I called Precision Turbo and Machine, and they sell ballbearing oil/water cooled turbos with the Mitsubishi flange on the turbine inlet. The guy I spoke to at Precision seemed to think that they would work with the Greddy exhaust manifolds, but someone else in this forum indicated that the Greddy turbos, which are Mitsubishi, do not use the standard Mitsubishi flange on the turbine intake, but instead use a flange that is exclusively unique to Greddy.

I have not looked into it further. You may ask Precision to send you a drawing of their turbine inlet flange and compare it to one or your Greddy turbos. Whatever you find out, please let us know.
Unfortunately, the mitsu flange is not anything like the greddy/mitsu flange. the mitsu is a rectangular 4-bolt flange, while the greddy is a rounded, triangular 3-bolt flange. you'd have to make an adapter. an adaprter is easy enough to have made, but as I said above....you will run into issues with being able to get an inlet pipe into the compressor. as the greddy sit now, it is hard enough. these turbos have a 3" inlet, but greddy necks the piping down to a 2" inlet to be able to clear the motor mounts and A/C compressor!
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