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04-24-2008, 09:53 AM
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The knock event you're having is not a big one (in fact, I don't even consider a "1" knock event in isolation to be true knock... Could be a lot of things). But a higher knock count or a few "1" counts in a row probably is true knock.
I think you'll find that knock starts to go away as the ambient temps are lower. But now that the season is starting to warm up, maybe that's why you're seeing knock? Couldn't UTEC control a Meth/water Solenoid at the desired rpm threshold? That might help with the knock as well... For that matter - an oil cooler, radiator combo wouldn't hurt either.
I think you'll find that knock starts to go away as the ambient temps are lower. But now that the season is starting to warm up, maybe that's why you're seeing knock? Couldn't UTEC control a Meth/water Solenoid at the desired rpm threshold? That might help with the knock as well... For that matter - an oil cooler, radiator combo wouldn't hurt either.
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04-24-2008, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackTuner
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27.3 17.2 ECU 100 000 3.1 13.33 153.77 2710 -0.5 3.3 52 0 1 16.2 17.2 ECU 100 000 3.1 13.59 153.87 2686 -0.4 3.1 52 0 1 22.4 17.0 ECU 100 000 3.1 13.60
Side note the stock ecu pulls enough away to make the knock event stop. I am not stock ecu God but they usually have a knock correction map which they store in the ram to keep the events from reoccurring. The problem is depending on how long this correction is applied it may come back so switching to richer target in the 10 percent column would be a much safer direction to go. Also, this is the type of knock of event where you hear of someone just cruising on the highway and they just tip in and the rod immediately goes through the block.
Could his knock sensitivity be set to high? He did say it was at 100 in that area...
04-24-2008, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackTuner
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27.3 17.2 ECU 100 000 3.1 13.33 153.77 2710 -0.5 3.3 52 0 1 16.2 17.2 ECU 100 000 3.1 13.59 153.87 2686 -0.4 3.1 52 0 1 22.4 17.0 ECU 100 000 3.1 13.60
Side note the stock ecu pulls enough away to make the knock event stop. I am not stock ecu God but they usually have a knock correction map which they store in the ram to keep the events from reoccurring. The problem is depending on how long this correction is applied it may come back so switching to richer target in the 10 percent column would be a much safer direction to go. Also, this is the type of knock of event where you hear of someone just cruising on the highway and they just tip in and the rod immediately goes through the block.
This is a rare occasion were the ECU actually pulled timing. My current Open Loop Map Threshold is set to 0 and Map Minimum/Maximum Value is 1 and 10 respectively. If I change the cross over earlier (to -1) then will I need to change my Map Min/Maximum Value too?
04-24-2008, 10:38 AM
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I HIGHLY doubt it is actually knock. The engine is under very little load and the ECU is running things and you're just about stoch on the A/F. I run my cruising A/F in the 15s on the UTEC and I NEVER get any knock.
Knock under boost is the only knock you should ever worry about.
Knock under boost is the only knock you should ever worry about.
04-24-2008, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackTuner
The point I was trying to make is that you can map the whole timing table so that the factory ecu is never in control of timing. This includes the 0 percent column. Especially since this would be the easiest and most reliable way to determine if it is knock or not.
Originally Posted by BlackTuner
Also, this is the type of knock of event where you hear of someone just cruising on the highway and they just tip in and the rod immediately goes through the block.
04-24-2008, 05:03 PM
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I checked some of my other logs and this is what I have found under load. LOL I know I log a lot...
I'm also knocking crazy below 3000rpm and my A/F is low 11's to hight 10's, timing is also not that crazy and this is with Water/Meth!!! (I start to spray at around 4psi). I don't think the knock I'm getting around 2000-3000rpm is real knock so I'll probably reduce my knock setting around that RPM. My only fear is that reducing the sensitivity and reducing the accuracy of detecting real knock.
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[TSMP][RPM][PSIG][MAF][TPS][LOD][KN][SIG][IDC%][IGN][VOEF][BMV][MMV][WBO2] 927.51 2394 -10.3 2.3 15 0 0 34.4 5.3 ECU 100 000 2.3 15.89 927.61 2469 -9.2 2.4 14 0 0 33.3 6.3 ECU 100 000 2.3 14.92 927.71 2418 -8.4 2.4 16 0 0 34.2 6.9 ECU 100 000 2.3 14.70 927.81 2392 -7.5 2.6 21 0 0 35.3 7.6 ECU 100 000 2.5 14.17 927.91 2433 -5.9 2.9 24 0 0 34.4 9.1 ECU 100 000 2.7 13.42 928.01 2450 -3.8 3.1 26 0 0 28.3 4.0 ECU 100 000 2.8 13.89 928.11 2450 -2.3 3.1 34 0 0 26.4 17.0 ECU 100 000 2.9 14.23 928.21 2417 -1.3 3.2 37 0 1 25.4 13.4 ECU 100 000 2.9 13.54 928.31 2433 -0.8 3.2 38 0 1 23.3 17.3 ECU 100 000 3.1 13.67 487.31 2897 +5.2 3.9 57 50 0 14.2 34.1 18.0 +8 000 3.7 10.94 487.34 2898 +5.3 3.9 57 50 0 15.3 35.0 18.0 +8 000 3.8 10.95 487.38 2898 +5.3 4.1 57 50 0 13.3 35.1 18.0 +8 000 3.7 10.95 487.42 2920 +5.4 4.1 57 50 0 13.4 35.5 18.0 +8 000 3.7 10.91 487.47 2920 +5.6 4.1 58 60 0 14.3 36.0 18.0 +8 000 3.7 10.89 487.51 2918 +5.6 4.0 58 60 0 14.2 36.1 18.0 +8 000 3.7 10.80 487.55 2934 +5.7 4.0 58 60 0 14.4 36.7 18.0 +8 000 3.8 10.79 487.59 2929 +5.7 3.9 57 60 3 14.2 37.1 12.0 +8 000 3.6 10.73 487.63 2927 +5.8 3.9 57 60 3 13.3 37.1 11.5 +8 000 3.6 10.55 546.29 2921 +5.7 4.0 69 60 0 14.4 36.7 17.5 +8 000 3.7 10.94 546.33 2913 +5.7 4.0 69 60 0 15.4 36.3 17.5 +8 000 3.9 10.94 546.37 2903 +5.9 4.0 69 60 0 15.3 38.1 17.5 +8 000 3.8 10.89 546.40 2918 +5.9 3.8 69 60 0 15.2 37.5 17.5 +8 000 3.7 11.04 546.44 2938 +6.0 3.8 69 60 0 16.3 38.1 17.5 +8 000 3.8 11.04 546.48 2949 +6.0 4.0 69 60 0 17.3 37.7 17.5 +8 000 3.7 11.04 546.53 2935 +6.1 4.0 69 60 0 16.3 38.8 17.4 +8 000 3.8 10.97 546.57 2942 +6.0 4.0 69 60 7 18.3 38.5 10.9 +8 000 3.7 10.94 546.60 2942 +6.1 3.9 68 60 7 17.3 38.7 10.9 +8 000 3.8 10.94
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Originally Posted by athenG
I checked some of my other logs and this is what I have found under load. LOL I know I log a lot...
I'm also knocking crazy below 3000rpm and my A/F is low 11's to hight 10's, timing is also not that crazy and this is with Water/Meth!!! (I start to spray at around 4psi). I don't think the knock I'm getting around 2000-3000rpm is real knock so I'll probably reduce my knock setting around that RPM. My only fear is that reducing the sensitivity and reducing the accuracy of detecting real knock.
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[TSMP][RPM][PSIG][MAF][TPS][LOD][KN][SIG][IDC%][IGN][VOEF][BMV][MMV][WBO2] 927.51 2394 -10.3 2.3 15 0 0 34.4 5.3 ECU 100 000 2.3 15.89 927.61 2469 -9.2 2.4 14 0 0 33.3 6.3 ECU 100 000 2.3 14.92 927.71 2418 -8.4 2.4 16 0 0 34.2 6.9 ECU 100 000 2.3 14.70 927.81 2392 -7.5 2.6 21 0 0 35.3 7.6 ECU 100 000 2.5 14.17 927.91 2433 -5.9 2.9 24 0 0 34.4 9.1 ECU 100 000 2.7 13.42 928.01 2450 -3.8 3.1 26 0 0 28.3 4.0 ECU 100 000 2.8 13.89 928.11 2450 -2.3 3.1 34 0 0 26.4 17.0 ECU 100 000 2.9 14.23 928.21 2417 -1.3 3.2 37 0 1 25.4 13.4 ECU 100 000 2.9 13.54 928.31 2433 -0.8 3.2 38 0 1 23.3 17.3 ECU 100 000 3.1 13.67 487.31 2897 +5.2 3.9 57 50 0 14.2 34.1 18.0 +8 000 3.7 10.94 487.34 2898 +5.3 3.9 57 50 0 15.3 35.0 18.0 +8 000 3.8 10.95 487.38 2898 +5.3 4.1 57 50 0 13.3 35.1 18.0 +8 000 3.7 10.95 487.42 2920 +5.4 4.1 57 50 0 13.4 35.5 18.0 +8 000 3.7 10.91 487.47 2920 +5.6 4.1 58 60 0 14.3 36.0 18.0 +8 000 3.7 10.89 487.51 2918 +5.6 4.0 58 60 0 14.2 36.1 18.0 +8 000 3.7 10.80 487.55 2934 +5.7 4.0 58 60 0 14.4 36.7 18.0 +8 000 3.8 10.79 487.59 2929 +5.7 3.9 57 60 3 14.2 37.1 12.0 +8 000 3.6 10.73 487.63 2927 +5.8 3.9 57 60 3 13.3 37.1 11.5 +8 000 3.6 10.55 546.29 2921 +5.7 4.0 69 60 0 14.4 36.7 17.5 +8 000 3.7 10.94 546.33 2913 +5.7 4.0 69 60 0 15.4 36.3 17.5 +8 000 3.9 10.94 546.37 2903 +5.9 4.0 69 60 0 15.3 38.1 17.5 +8 000 3.8 10.89 546.40 2918 +5.9 3.8 69 60 0 15.2 37.5 17.5 +8 000 3.7 11.04 546.44 2938 +6.0 3.8 69 60 0 16.3 38.1 17.5 +8 000 3.8 11.04 546.48 2949 +6.0 4.0 69 60 0 17.3 37.7 17.5 +8 000 3.7 11.04 546.53 2935 +6.1 4.0 69 60 0 16.3 38.8 17.4 +8 000 3.8 10.97 546.57 2942 +6.0 4.0 69 60 7 18.3 38.5 10.9 +8 000 3.7 10.94 546.60 2942 +6.1 3.9 68 60 7 17.3 38.7 10.9 +8 000 3.8 10.94
04-25-2008, 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by athenG
I checked some of my other logs and this is what I have found under load. LOL I know I log a lot...
I'm also knocking crazy below 3000rpm and my A/F is low 11's to hight 10's, timing is also not that crazy and this is with Water/Meth!!! (I start to spray at around 4psi). I don't think the knock I'm getting around 2000-3000rpm is real knock so I'll probably reduce my knock setting around that RPM. My only fear is that reducing the sensitivity and reducing the accuracy of detecting real knock.
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[TSMP][RPM][PSIG][MAF][TPS][LOD][KN][SIG][IDC%][IGN][VOEF][BMV][MMV][WBO2] 927.51 2394 -10.3 2.3 15 0 0 34.4 5.3 ECU 100 000 2.3 15.89 927.61 2469 -9.2 2.4 14 0 0 33.3 6.3 ECU 100 000 2.3 14.92 927.71 2418 -8.4 2.4 16 0 0 34.2 6.9 ECU 100 000 2.3 14.70 927.81 2392 -7.5 2.6 21 0 0 35.3 7.6 ECU 100 000 2.5 14.17 927.91 2433 -5.9 2.9 24 0 0 34.4 9.1 ECU 100 000 2.7 13.42 928.01 2450 -3.8 3.1 26 0 0 28.3 4.0 ECU 100 000 2.8 13.89 928.11 2450 -2.3 3.1 34 0 0 26.4 17.0 ECU 100 000 2.9 14.23 928.21 2417 -1.3 3.2 37 0 1 25.4 13.4 ECU 100 000 2.9 13.54 928.31 2433 -0.8 3.2 38 0 1 23.3 17.3 ECU 100 000 3.1 13.67 487.31 2897 +5.2 3.9 57 50 0 14.2 34.1 18.0 +8 000 3.7 10.94 487.34 2898 +5.3 3.9 57 50 0 15.3 35.0 18.0 +8 000 3.8 10.95 487.38 2898 +5.3 4.1 57 50 0 13.3 35.1 18.0 +8 000 3.7 10.95 487.42 2920 +5.4 4.1 57 50 0 13.4 35.5 18.0 +8 000 3.7 10.91 487.47 2920 +5.6 4.1 58 60 0 14.3 36.0 18.0 +8 000 3.7 10.89 487.51 2918 +5.6 4.0 58 60 0 14.2 36.1 18.0 +8 000 3.7 10.80 487.55 2934 +5.7 4.0 58 60 0 14.4 36.7 18.0 +8 000 3.8 10.79 487.59 2929 +5.7 3.9 57 60 3 14.2 37.1 12.0 +8 000 3.6 10.73 487.63 2927 +5.8 3.9 57 60 3 13.3 37.1 11.5 +8 000 3.6 10.55 546.29 2921 +5.7 4.0 69 60 0 14.4 36.7 17.5 +8 000 3.7 10.94 546.33 2913 +5.7 4.0 69 60 0 15.4 36.3 17.5 +8 000 3.9 10.94 546.37 2903 +5.9 4.0 69 60 0 15.3 38.1 17.5 +8 000 3.8 10.89 546.40 2918 +5.9 3.8 69 60 0 15.2 37.5 17.5 +8 000 3.7 11.04 546.44 2938 +6.0 3.8 69 60 0 16.3 38.1 17.5 +8 000 3.8 11.04 546.48 2949 +6.0 4.0 69 60 0 17.3 37.7 17.5 +8 000 3.7 11.04 546.53 2935 +6.1 4.0 69 60 0 16.3 38.8 17.4 +8 000 3.8 10.97 546.57 2942 +6.0 4.0 69 60 7 18.3 38.5 10.9 +8 000 3.7 10.94 546.60 2942 +6.1 3.9 68 60 7 17.3 38.7 10.9 +8 000 3.8 10.94
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Originally Posted by athenG
This is a rare occasion were the ECU actually pulled timing. My current Open Loop Map Threshold is set to 0 and Map Minimum/Maximum Value is 1 and 10 respectively. If I change the cross over earlier (to -1) then will I need to change my Map Min/Maximum Value too?
You may need to change it but honestly you are the "log king" you should be able to map it out pretty quickly. For now just lower your threshold and post the results. BTW, if i don't reply email me or call me and kick me in the *****.
04-25-2008, 05:35 AM
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Thanks, I'll lower my Open Loop threshold to -1 and subtract another -7 on my Knock settings and see if it makes a difference.
Thanks for the help guys...
Thanks for the help guys...
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Originally Posted by jining
so now your 10% column will be your -1psi column right?
Jermaine said to just adjust the open loop map threshold and leave the Map Min Value so fueling will switch over to my 10% sooner. I'm still debating if I should lower the threshold or just reduce the sensitivity to maybe 90
Last thing I want is to screw the tune I have right now, I'm also thinking of getting a full tune in the summer anyways.
04-25-2008, 07:46 AM
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mmmm so at -1psi what fuel map is it going off of then? Wouldnt you have to switch your map min value to -1 for it to work? Otherwise it has no map for -1psi or am i wrong? Does it automatically use the 10% column then?
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Originally Posted by athenG
Jermaine said to just adjust the open loop map threshold and leave the Map Min Value so fueling will switch over to my 10% sooner. I'm still debating if I should lower the threshold or just reduce the sensitivity to maybe 90 Last thing I want is to screw the tune I have right now, I'm also thinking of getting a full tune in the summer anyways.
Last thing I want is to screw the tune I have right now, I'm also thinking of getting a full tune in the summer anyways.Just reducing the knock threshold in the area that the factory ecu is not pulling timing is just putting a blind fold over a problem.
Can't hurt by crossing over earlier reducing the knock events.
04-25-2008, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by jining
mmmm so at -1psi what fuel map is it going off of then? Wouldnt you have to switch your map min value to -1 for it to work? Otherwise it has no map for -1psi or am i wrong? Does it automatically use the 10% column then?
I'm no tuner but I think it will just use your 10% column sooner. I emailed him coz my Map Min Value is 1 so there is a gap between -1 and 1psi. I currently have 0 on my Map threshold but have 1 on my Min Map Value. Base on my logs, I switch to 10% at 0.0psi, hit 20% around 1.5psi, 30% at 2.5psi, 40% at 3.5psi...etc. I asked him if the Map threshold and Map Min Value should be the same and he said no. I'll email him to get more info coz I'm also confused
04-25-2008, 08:18 AM
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hmm yes please get back to me... i guess it would make sense for them to make the map threshold automatically be assigned to the 10% column otherwise people would have NO map if they had map threshold at -1 and 1 on the min map value
edit: ok so im reading the utec manual, this makes more sense now.
"Open Loop MAP Threshold allows you to set the cross-over point where the UTEC will switch from the 0% load column to the 10-100% load columns."
edit: ok so im reading the utec manual, this makes more sense now.
"Open Loop MAP Threshold allows you to set the cross-over point where the UTEC will switch from the 0% load column to the 10-100% load columns."
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Originally Posted by jining
hmm yes please get back to me... i guess it would make sense for them to make the map threshold automatically be assigned to the 10% column otherwise people would have NO map if they had map threshold at -1 and 1 on the min map value
edit: ok so im reading the utec manual, this makes more sense now.
"Open Loop MAP Threshold allows you to set the cross-over point where the UTEC will switch from the 0% load column to the 10-100% load columns."
edit: ok so im reading the utec manual, this makes more sense now.
"Open Loop MAP Threshold allows you to set the cross-over point where the UTEC will switch from the 0% load column to the 10-100% load columns."
Not to mention OLF values only apply to Open Loop Fueling. Some application don't require use of OLF at all. So with the limitation of HyperTerm it has to be this way with a Min and Max for Mapping just incase you were to using the UTEC that way.
04-25-2008, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackTuner
right!
Not to mention OLF values only apply to Open Loop Fueling. Some application don't require use of OLF at all. So with the limitation of HyperTerm it has to be this way with a Min and Max for Mapping just incase you were to using the UTEC that way.
Not to mention OLF values only apply to Open Loop Fueling. Some application don't require use of OLF at all. So with the limitation of HyperTerm it has to be this way with a Min and Max for Mapping just incase you were to using the UTEC that way.
/\ got it thanks...
Last more thing, why is it my switch over between loads are not always in the exact psi (ie, 20% =1.5psi, 30% =2.5psi..etc) even though my Min is 1 and Max is 10.
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Originally Posted by athenG
/\ got it thanks...
Last more thing, why is it my switch over between loads are not always in the exact psi (ie, 20% =1.5psi, 30% =2.5psi..etc) even though my Min is 1 and Max is 10.
Last more thing, why is it my switch over between loads are not always in the exact psi (ie, 20% =1.5psi, 30% =2.5psi..etc) even though my Min is 1 and Max is 10.
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