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Old May 15, 2008 | 04:52 PM
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So I know I'm going to get bashed with a TON of people rippin on the ST kit from Turbonetics, I've read a lot about the difference of the TT kit and the ST, but has ANYONE actually had complete success with and engine with the ST kit? I understand replacements and upgrades along the way, but just curious if there are those out there that prefer and were successful with teh ST kit from Turbonetics, or if I should just stop now with the progress of the ST kit thats on the z now???
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Originally Posted by Rmrichards1385
So I know I'm going to get bashed with a TON of people rippin on the ST kit from Turbonetics, I've read a lot about the difference of the TT kit and the ST, but has ANYONE actually had complete success with and engine with the ST kit? I understand replacements and upgrades along the way, but just curious if there are those out there that prefer and were successful with teh ST kit from Turbonetics, or if I should just stop now with the progress of the ST kit thats on the z now???
hahaha what ???
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Single Turbo kit from turbonetics vs the Twin Turbo kit....if anyone has actually had any success with the single. It seems so many people out there are bashing the single kit and I've heard a few defending the single turbo kit, but just have come across any success stories upon building the engine and having the single turbo...just wanting to get to the bottom of it and find out.
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sorry I re-read my post, seems I left out a sentence....single kit upon Engine build and increased power/reliability.
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Originally Posted by Rmrichards1385
single kit upon Engine build and increased power/reliability.

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Old May 15, 2008 | 05:16 PM
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lol is it still not making sense??

Basically I'm just asking are there any success stories of 350z owners building their motor and having the Single Turbo Kit from Turbonetics???
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lol is it still not making sense??

Basically I'm just asking are there any success stories of 350z owners building their motor and having the Single Turbo Kit from Turbonetics???
define success....
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define success....

haha basically to the point they were happy, the car ran as it should, put up great numbers, the owner didn't have any regrets on the choice of the turbo kit.

Basically what I'm worried about is I'm on the road to a dead end?? I've purchased the Turbonetics Single Turbo kit and have enjoyed it ever since. Recently had an issue that will be getting taken care of through the warranty. I plan on keeping this car for a very long time. During that time want to keep adding more and more to the performance at the same time maximizing reliability to the car. Before I keep spending more and more money on this, I was curious as to if it is possible to have an engine built, fast, yet reliable 350z with this Turbo-kit?



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I made good power 480hp 490 tq
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GOOD TO HERE!!! w/ what done if you don't mind me asking? How's everything runnin? Any issues? I'm not really looking for anything in the 600+ range like it seems everyone's "goal" always is, so yes that 480s is good numbers, if you can run it safely and reliably.
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GOOD TO HERE!!! w/ what done if you don't mind me asking? How's everything runnin? Any issues? I'm not really looking for anything in the 600+ range like it seems everyone's "goal" always is, so yes that 480s is good numbers, if you can run it safely and reliably.

to get decent power out of it, it seems you need a good ECU and meth injection. Intake temps are very high on this kit due to poor design. Thus you cannot really run any timing or moderate to high boost without something to keep the car from detonating.
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really? So ur saying this kit produces hot air at higher boost levels?? That's definately not good considering im n az, a place where it never get cold, lol what kind of design could cause this? So what ur saying is an engine build w this kit may not be a wise way to go bc at higher boost levels this kit is a "ticking time bomb?"

(btw sorry if it sounds like I'm a dumba55, currently at work, and keep flipping between screens) lol not really re-reading anything.
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to get decent power out of it, it seems you need a good ECU and meth injection.

pardon my ignorance, but what exactly would b meth injection? Or should I use the search tool for this one? LOL
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Originally Posted by Rmrichards1385
pardon my ignorance, but what exactly would b meth injection? Or should I use the search tool for this one? LOL
Yes...please use the search. You save yourself alot from just searching
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Methanol Injection.... It's used to lower the intake temperature, and increase the octane level in the vehicle. There good, but you have to keep refilling it.... kind of like nitrous. It's not harmful to the motor at all. With turbonetics kit, it can be done, but you end up doing more then you would with other kits. If you want the power.... do it. What's your target HP?
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really? So ur saying this kit produces hot air at higher boost levels?? That's definately not good considering im n az, a place where it never get cold, lol what kind of design could cause this? So what ur saying is an engine build w this kit may not be a wise way to go bc at higher boost levels this kit is a "ticking time bomb?"

(btw sorry if it sounds like I'm a dumba55, currently at work, and keep flipping between screens) lol not really re-reading anything.
with the kit's design, the turbo sitting in the engine bay and the charge pipe routing so close to the turbo, it basically feeds your motor hot air. this only increases as boost pressure increases. Normally, people don't make much power because raising the boost really doesn't make any more power due to the intake temps and pulling so much timing.

The meth injection will help reduce charge temps negating some of design flaw of the setup. Having a decent ECU management will allow better control of timing and fuel to get the most out of the crippled kit
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thx slide, dont really have much of a target hp as of right now, Right now, I'm happy with the power, just looking to run this kit a little safer, looking for mods to strengthen the motor so at the same boost it not damaging the motor so much, I just feel like boosting a stock motor on any car is harmful, would like to make it more reliable. The building the motor will come later when I have more than just my zx-6r to drive around in, bikes fun, but gets old drivin it everyday!!
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Originally Posted by Zivman
with the kit's design, the turbo sitting in the engine bay and the charge pipe routing so close to the turbo, it basically feeds your motor hot air. this only increases as boost pressure increases. Normally, people don't make much power because raising the boost really doesn't make any more power due to the intake temps and pulling so much timing.

The meth injection will help reduce charge temps negating some of design flaw of the setup. Having a decent ECU management will allow better control of timing and fuel to get the most out of the crippled kit

well that sux, all that just to have the turbo sitting up in the engine bay so u can c it huh?? Sometimes makes me feel like taking out the kit and startin ovr
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Being a fellow Arizonan, for safer driving here, it's all about the temperature. We see 100+ temps for 100+ days. I would suggest the following:

-Oil Cooler
-Thicker Radiator
-Nismo Thermostat
-Methanol or Water Injection

You need to keep your engine/fluid temps down to prevent heat soak and detonation. That is the biggest problem I see with turbo cars here.
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Originally Posted by Rmrichards1385
well that sux, all that just to have the turbo sitting up in the engine bay so u can c it huh?? Sometimes makes me feel like taking out the kit and startin ovr
It has nothing to do with the turbo being visible. It's the Charge piping design. It stays so close to the turbo and downpipe, the air doesn't cool enough; hence resulting in higher intake air temps, and detonation if not tune right.
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