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Old Jul 7, 2008 | 03:22 PM
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I just stripped a bolt in my lower plenum.

Anyone know the size helicoil I need? M6X1?
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Old Jul 7, 2008 | 03:44 PM
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You are not the first.. yes that is what you need...
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Old Jul 7, 2008 | 04:46 PM
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Thanks.... I just put it in. I was using a torque wrench and it stripped at only 5 ft-lbs.

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Old Jul 7, 2008 | 04:47 PM
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Lol, welcome to the club.
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Old Jul 7, 2008 | 07:09 PM
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I don't use my stupid cheap AmPro torque wrenches anymore for the plenum. Just "hand tight" holding a socket driver with one hand and no lever arm action, then another 10-20 degrees on the bolt. Haven't had a leak so far (as far as I know). Lot faster getting it back on too. I figure it'll be back off again before it has a chance to develop an air leak!

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Old Jul 7, 2008 | 07:24 PM
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Ha!

I think all my holes are heli coiled
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Old Jul 7, 2008 | 07:34 PM
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damn, luie, and i was just about to send you that payment for your motor,
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 04:06 AM
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WTF I was tourquing another bolt down, and the bolt snapped in half at 7 ft-lbs. The broken bolt is now stuck in the lower plenum. It was a perimeter bolt. The manual says to tourque these down to 9ft.lbs. This manifold is a complete POS!

I was also using a new digital $230 tourque wrench so they wouldn't strip!

Now I need another rev-up lower plenum. Who's got one they want to sell?

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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 05:09 AM
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Why not extract the bolt?

Ive had mine off dozens of times never had an issue. I use the same technique as rcdash, nutdriver with one hand will tighten enough and limit your TQ.
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by JETPILOT
WTF I was tourquing another bolt down, and the bolt snapped in half at 7 ft-lbs. The broken bolt is now stuck in the lower plenum. It was a perimeter bolt. The manual says to tourque these down to 9ft.lbs. This manifold is a complete POS!

I was also using a new digital $230 tourque wrench so they wouldn't strip!

Now I need another rev-up lower plenum. Who's got one they want to sell?
Larry,

You should probably buy a dedicated inch-pound torque wrench for these low torque jobs. Torque wrenches are most accurate at the top end of the functional range. on your wrench, the range is some thing like 5-100 ft-lb (or is it 10-100 ft-lb), the closer you are to the 100 ft-lb range, the more accurate the wrench is.

I use my Snap-On Digital torque wrench on the bigger stuff, and I use a craftsman 3/8" in-lb wrench (25-250 in-lbs) that I bought just for the manifold.

also, I go by the motordyne specs for torquing the plenum. 40 inch- pounds....then 80 inch-pounds, and then finally 100 inch-pound on the preimeter bolts only. keep the 6 interior long bolts at 80 in-lbs.

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Originally Posted by rcdash
I don't use my stupid cheap AmPro torque wrenches anymore for the plenum. Just "hand tight" holding a socket driver with one hand and no lever arm action, then another 10-20 degrees on the bolt. Haven't had a leak so far (as far as I know). Lot faster getting it back on too.
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This is exactly what I do. Hand tighten, then I use a ratchet to turn the bolt @ 1/4 of a turn more. No problems yet. Knocks on wood.
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by JETPILOT
Now I need another rev-up lower plenum. Who's got one they want to sell?
I have one I'd like to get rid of for cheap. Only had about 2k miles on it before being replaced with an Mrev2...
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by QuadCam
Larry,

You should probably buy a dedicated inch-pound torque wrench for these low torque jobs. Torque wrenches are most accurate at the top end of the functional range. on your wrench, the range is some thing like 5-100 ft-lb (or is it 10-100 ft-lb), the closer you are to the 100 ft-lb range, the more accurate the wrench is.

I use my Snap-On Digital torque wrench on the bigger stuff, and I use a craftsman 3/8" in-lb wrench (25-250 in-lbs) that I bought just for the manifold.

also, I go by the motordyne specs for torquing the plenum. 40 inch- pounds....then 80 inch-pounds, and then finally 100 ft-pound on the preimeter bolts only. keep the 6 interior long bolts at 80 in-lbs.
A big +1 to this. I do the same, except a 100in/lbs and not ft-pounds on the perimeter bolts.

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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 02:11 PM
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its so funny, i have probably taken off over a hundred plenums in the past year or so and i have never ever stripped one out.

im sure i will do it tomorrow though now.
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Resolute
A big +1 to this. I do the same, except a 100in/lbs and not ft-pounds on the perimeter bolts.

Will

thanks Will. I edited my previous post to now show in-pounds. I could have really screwed someone over with that one!
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 02:37 PM
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I was just going by what the service manual says. It says 9-10 ft-lbs.
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 02:49 PM
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Was it a perimeter bolt or a middle one?
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 02:50 PM
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It was a perimeter. #13.
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