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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 12:03 AM
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So i was considering picking up an evo and started to do research but im probably going to be getting back into another Z. so with my old built motor sitting on the side while i was reading about evos i read about the 35HTA turbos. Now for those of you who dont know about the HTA's these turbos, if you thought the 35r turbo was an animal the HTA is even better. heres a description of the turbo from the site.

Our FP GT3582HTA turbocharger is very similar the to the standard GT3582R Garrett turbocharger in overall size and footprint, but that is where the similarities end and your new found power begins. It comes with a 4" inlet and 2.5" outlet anti-surge ported compressor housing. This new and improved style of anti-surge port provides a longer and more gentle bell mouth guide for the air all the way down to the inducer tips. The standard turbine housing is the T31 housing in 2.5" outlet for compact installation applications such as 4G63. Other turbine housings styles are available. If you always wanted a 35R on your car, but just could not stand the thought of all that lag - then you have found the answer to your troubles. At 4800rpm the FP3582HTA delivers a 50ft-lb torque increase over the standard Garrett 35R.

-http://store.forcedperformance.net/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=FP&Product_Code=NTGT3582 HTA&Category_Code=Turbo-FP
Burschur Racing's Bad Bish made 6xxwhp on pump gas with this same turbo. So i was thinking what if the 35R turbo that came with the PL Kit could be swapped out for a 35HTA. i pmd intense so maybe well get lucky and see some results.
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 05:23 AM
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But the Z is 3.5 liters, not 2.0, so there really isnt that much lag with the 35r.(or the 37)
And why mess with a proven setup such as the PL kit?
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 05:58 AM
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But the Z is 3.5 liters, not 2.0, so there really isnt that much lag with the 35r.(or the 37)
And why mess with a proven setup such as the PL kit?
bc he wants to be diff. **** im down. Post results. Buschur makes nasty powa with their evos so if it will work im sure it would be sweet
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 08:29 AM
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why does everyone wanna be so diff?
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 02:26 PM
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i looked into the hta when i upgraded turbos on my 240. it really wasnt worth it unless using race gas and high boost. you may gain 500 rpm spoolup and more top end, but unless youre running 35psi it really wont matter. no worth the pricetag.
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 04:22 PM
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Try a Bullseye Power S366. That will kick a 35r right in the nuts.
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by gothchick
why does everyone wanna be so diff?
Sometimes people don't understand that being "different" doesn't equal better...
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JAMEZ@CiNcity
Sometimes people don't understand that being "different" doesn't equal better...
X2. That turbo was designed for a 4 cylinder engine and won't work the same with an engine almost twice the size. My 37r comes into full boost by 2800rpms.
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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by SnyperZ
X2. That turbo was designed for a 4 cylinder engine and won't work the same with an engine almost twice the size. My 37r comes into full boost by 2800rpms.
How much is full boost for you right now? If you were running with a built engine and 20+ psi of boost your spoolup to full boost would occur at a much higher rpm.

I don't really know about the FP compressor cover, but I've seen the Precision ported anti-surge shroud outflow a 'normal' GT35r (at high pressure ratios, on a honda), let alone the 35r with an E cover on it like the PL kit.

I would be willing to bet this turbo could hit 700 whp and outspool a 'GT37r' getting there... but then i'm bench racing now.

I understand that your saying the PL kit is great already, and proven so why mess with it. I would still like to see this turbo tested out on a VQ!
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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by tig488
i looked into the hta when i upgraded turbos on my 240. it really wasnt worth it unless using race gas and high boost. you may gain 500 rpm spoolup and more top end, but unless youre running 35psi it really wont matter. no worth the pricetag.

its actually only 200 more a turbo. but maybe ill try this down the road. and report back
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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 10:45 PM
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If you want 700+ wheel wait for the 76 kit. Way less boost to achieve the power.
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so my td05-18g's went out and forced performance have them right now and they're doing a HTA82 conversion. They wouldn't tell me much except they will spool as fast or barely slower then 18g's but make much more power. Sharif has pulled my motor and is standing by to drop these in and see what they do on the dyno. Will report!
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Originally Posted by scout1669
so my td05-18g's went out and forced performance have them right now and they're doing a HTA82 conversion. They wouldn't tell me much except they will spool as fast or barely slower then 18g's but make much more power. Sharif has pulled my motor and is standing by to drop these in and see what they do on the dyno. Will report!
Cant wait to see results, or better yet some traps from a setup like that.

My guess is unless Sharif goes max out on the tune you wont make more power than a standard kit...
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Originally Posted by Alberto
Cant wait to see results, or better yet some traps from a setup like that.

My guess is unless Sharif goes max out on the tune you wont make more power than a standard kit...
Me either, it's been a long time in the making. I am running sharif's longblock so i think that will be the limiting factor. I still need to decide on a suspension setup and get the R888's on.
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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 08:18 AM
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How much did your normal Greddy kit max out at?
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Originally Posted by scout1669
so my td05-18g's went out and forced performance have them right now and they're doing a HTA82 conversion. They wouldn't tell me much except they will spool as fast or barely slower then 18g's but make much more power. Sharif has pulled my motor and is standing by to drop these in and see what they do on the dyno. Will report!
with the hta82 conversion, make sure you guys open up the dp's due to the bore being alot bigger after the conversion.
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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
How much did your normal Greddy kit max out at?
I never got to push it hard at all. My first build the motor was started without oil and lasted 40 miles. The second go-round the turbo's were bad, very bad, but sharif did run a base map that put down 540whp for the breakin. I drove a total of 1000 miles and now he has the car back.

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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 11:09 AM
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Who did the first motor? How did the turbos go bad were they used b4 the build?

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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 11:22 AM
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first motor was built by forged as well, i had it installed by a local shop and they sucked. The turbo's were used but i believe they were good (may not have been) but when all the bearings spun i believe the contaminated oil compromised the journal bearings in the turbo's. This has been a very painful process.
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Originally Posted by scout1669
first motor was built by forged as well, i had it installed by a local shop and they sucked. The turbo's were used but i believe they were good (may not have been) but when all the bearings spun i believe the contaminated oil compromised the journal bearings in the turbo's. This has been a very painful process.
Sorry to hear something like this. Hope everything works out in the end for you.
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