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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 08:48 PM
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This is somewhat of a repost but with a different question. I started a tread in the G35 forum for opinions of which two of the cars is a better buy considering looks, build, tt kit, mileage, price, etc etc.... I got a ton of feedback and different answers.....

I did lot of research the last couple of days on these two kits and each motor build. Based on the motor build and Turbo kit alone, which car would you pick?

Both cars done at Forged

First car 2005 with 23k miles motor/turbo- 10K miles

APS Extreme Twin Turbo System - twin GT30s, 3.5" downpipes, twin fuel pumps with return line, upgraded fuel rails and SS lines, etc.
Carbonetics Triple Disc Carbon Clutch - 1350kg pressure plate
APS 3" full dual exhaust
Koyo Slim Radiator
ARP main studs
All new Nissan bearings
.020" overbore
Arias Extreme Duty 9.0:1 pistons
Pauter Billet Forged Rods with ARP rod bolts
ARP L19 head studs
JWT S7 Cams
JWT springs and shims
HKS metal headgasket
HKS FCON VPro engine management
HKS IAT sensors
HKS knock amp with wideband readout
HKS EVC boost controller
HKS DLI II ignition
Defi boost, coolant temp and oil pressure gauges
SP meth injection kit


2nd car is 2007 with 10k, 4k on motor/turbos


Jim Wolf Technology 700bb Twin Turbos w/ Intercoolers
Arias Extreme Duty Zero Silicon 9.0:1 Compression Pistons .02 Overbore
Pauter Forged Connecting Rods
FP Stage II Shortblock Assembly (Block Assembly, Machining, Balancing, & Blueprinting, Not sleeved)
HKS 1000cc Low Impedance Injectors
HKS 97mm Head Gasket
ARP L19 Head Bolts
ARP Main Stud Kit
NGK One Step Colder Plugs
Walbro 255 lph Fuel Pump
CJ Motorsports Stage I Complete Fuel Return System
Nissan Rear Coolant Bypass System
Koyo Slim V Series Radiator
Motordyne Mrev Upper Plenum
Motordyne 5/16" Plenum Spacer
Exhaust:
Greddy EVO TT
Turbo XS Test Pipes
Engine Management System:
Uprev tuned ECU
AEM Injector Amplifier
HKS EVC 6 Boost Controller
HKS Knock AMP
HKS FCON VPRO (not installed)
Exedy GTM Spec Twin Disk Carbon Clutch
ATS Carbon 1.5 Full Locking Rear Differential

Thanks for your opinion....

Please tell me WHY you picked one over the other, thanks again.
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 09:14 PM
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not too sound off on a trivial item, but colors? int. / ext.?
photos of either? issues after build?
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by lgear080
not too sound off on a trivial item, but colors? int. / ext.?
photos of either? issues after build?
I dont want those to have an influence on your answer or anyone else. I had a post with pics, color, sound, options, miles, price, etc. I only care about motor build, turbo set-up and less prone for issues. Thanks
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 09:52 PM
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no 2 motor is the same. They are both well built and #1 has cams so it problably would make more whp compare to the #2 if they were at the same psi level. At this pt it doesnt matter how much each hp makes bc u can always turn up the boost or upgrade the turbo to get the whp goal. It's now down to how much u willing to pay and do u want an 05 vs 07.
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 09:56 PM
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Simple answer... #2
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 10:09 PM
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#2

F-Con is the ****.
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 11:24 PM
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#2 for sure
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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 01:04 AM
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that was simple 2 all the way
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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 03:56 AM
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def number 2
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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 04:03 AM
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#2 just because the car is newer, but if #1 was a 2007 I would pick it because it has more potential
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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 04:27 AM
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This is 97% identical to your other thread, just buy one.
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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Dynasty.Zero
#2

F-Con is the ****.

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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 04:48 AM
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Numero dos senor!
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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 05:18 AM
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I read through you other thread, and I know the prices of both cars. Knowing that, #1 is the clear choice. The price difference is substantial and you are not getting the extra money's worth in the JWT car. Not only that, car #1 is already tuned on Fcon Vpro and has cams. Otherwise, the builds are pretty comparable, but having cams and being tuned on Fcon are clear advantages for car #1
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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 05:37 AM
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#3
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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Zivman
I read through you other thread, and I know the prices of both cars. Knowing that, #1 is the clear choice. The price difference is substantial and you are not getting the extra money's worth in the JWT car. Not only that, car #1 is already tuned on Fcon Vpro and has cams. Otherwise, the builds are pretty comparable, but having cams and being tuned on Fcon are clear advantages for car #1
Well there has been an update

2005 with 23k miles is $31,900 Fcon installed
2007 with 10k miles is $35,000 fcon, but not installed (seller said, it was causing bad idle and cruise control issues?????, tuned the stock ecu and said it runs 10x better and actually got 20+ whp, sound weird to me)

As far as other comments about car 1 having more future HP, Im fine at anything in the mid 500 whp range.
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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 06:50 AM
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I'm with Ziv....#1
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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by jl4punch2
Well there has been an update

2005 with 23k miles is $31,900 Fcon installed
2007 with 10k miles is $35,000 fcon, but not installed (seller said, it was causing bad idle and cruise control issues?????, tuned the stock ecu and said it runs 10x better and actually got 20+ whp, sound weird to me)

As far as other comments about car 1 having more future HP, Im fine at anything in the mid 500 whp range.
have you driven either cars? I like #2 for being newer, but beyond that, I prefer the first car, and it is cheaper. If forged built both cars, ask them which car is a better value.

I cannot see the uprev ems being smoother nor making more power. Who tuned the Fcon?
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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 09:58 AM
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I will go with #2

There is a few things that #1 has that I would switch on to #2
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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Zivman
have you driven either cars? I like #2 for being newer, but beyond that, I prefer the first car, and it is cheaper. If forged built both cars, ask them which car is a better value.

I cannot see the uprev ems being smoother nor making more power. Who tuned the Fcon?
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