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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 10:36 AM
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Im not looking for anyone to hate on this. Im gonna be one of the few people to build the block using the turbonetics kits. Im shooting for 500+ whp and maybe a 50 shot. I dont see the point in selling the whole kit for 3k and buying another kit for 6k to get that power.

So this is what im doing for the build, any input or help would be appreciated.

-Brian Crower Pro Series Rods and Pistons
-Port Heads and Valve Bodies
-Custom 3 Inch Downpipe
-Redo Turbo Piping To Get Rid Of The S Turn In Front Of The Motor
-Standalone ECU
-600 CC Injectors
-Kinetix SSV Manifold
-Possible Water Injection, But Trying To Get That Power On Just 91.

Anyone have any idea or suggestions it would be appreciated.

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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 10:50 AM
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Looks like you have a solid foundation. There really shouldn't be a problem why you can't hit just 500hp.
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Scope350
Im not looking for anyone to hate on this. Im gonna be one of the few people to build the block using the turbonetics kits. Im shooting for 500+ whp and maybe a 50 shot. I dont see the point in selling the whole kit for 3k and buying another kit for 6k to get that power.

So this is what im doing for the build, any input or help would be appreciated.

-Brian Crower Pro Series Rods and Pistons
-Port Heads and Valve Bodies
-Custom 3 Inch Downpipe
-Redo Turbo Piping To Get Rid Of The S Turn In Front Of The Motor-Standalone ECU
-600 CC Injectors
-Kinetix SSV Manifold
-Possible Water Injection, But Trying To Get That Power On Just 91.

Anyone have any idea or suggestions it would be appreciated.

Thanks.


wow for that engine id rather do a kit that can put 650-700whp out the box, if you want to stick with single there are other options, or twins too up to you...but the point is 500hp with TN is possible but very inefficient to do, worthless IMO specially for the kind of engine you want. Enjoy the kit for what it is: a great cheap kit for stock block. Others have gone down that path of "batardizing" it and failed... SO why its better to change it? cuase 1st you get a kit that is designed for the powergoals you want and more, and in the end you dont actually save money after the cost of time and material and R&D to make you modifications you want work.

As far as the parts for the engine you picked.. you are solid and already overkill(no need for headwork) for your powergoals, better if you use the money on better kit.

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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 11:05 AM
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how much are you pushing with your set up?

its also less cost effective in my opinion to sell the kit and pay another 3-4k on top of it to get 500whp. I live in ca, so all this im doing is already illegal. I rather not have 15k invested incase something does happen.

Only kit i would consider is maybe the Powerlabs kit or the SFR T4 single turbo. But even then its at least another 3500-4000 i have to pay just for the kit.

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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 11:12 AM
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you might have the ***** to take the leap........but your not going to land the way you think.
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 12:53 PM
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I set the over/under at a year before he upgrades to twins after building the block.

Unless you are immune to the boost drug, once you get a taste you will find that if your wallet allows it, you will want more power. With this setup you will be maxed out already and will start trolling the classifieds for used twin kits. I understand your intentions and wish you luck on your build.
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 12:59 PM
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i mean not necesarly twins.. powerlab is perfectly capable of hitting 650-700whp mark too... but lol, its basically like go-fasts caption and as you say, maybe 6-8 months till he decides to upgrade the turbo kit.
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 01:37 PM
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with used greddy TT's selling for 5g or less, sell your TN for 3k, use that 2k+ that was saved for the TN 'upgrades' and break even on that Greddy.

makes no sense to use a TN kit for 500 hp bc thats way beyond what that turbo was meant to do.
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 01:37 PM
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I suggest buying a better kit, something like the SP 61mm twins. Otherwise you will need to run lots of boost and have meth injection with the 91 youre putting in. Not a very efficient way to go.
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 01:52 PM
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Just save up some money and get the power lab kit or even twins
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to all that has been said already.......
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 03:09 PM
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Sell your netics and get something better. It will save u a lot of head aches. U don't want to end up like the famous red car on this forum. Do you ?
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 04:02 PM
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Well, you could just buy....... o never mind
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I am planning on going the built block TN kit route myself. I have already ditched the TN turbo and installed a Precision SC-61. I am planning on a basic built short block, cams, 15 psi, meth injection and a 75 shot. I think 525is doable with ease.
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 08:02 PM
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I hate the turbonetics kit with my life. Gave me so many headaches so i sold that and bought greddy twins. LOL

and about the kinetix ssv manifold. I heard that only does anything if you raise the rev limiter and have serious head work. Can anybody verify that.
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^^ you can! by using the search button.
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Sell your netics and get something better. It will save u a lot of head aches. U don't want to end up like the famous red car on this forum. Do you ?
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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 08:58 AM
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I liked my TN Single for what it was - a great addition for power on my stock block without a large expense. The kit, in my experience, gives adequate power gains when price is considered, its just that you have to be willing to accept that it has limits.

The Powerlab kit is the hottest thing going right now, especially since they have kits made for the HR's. In time I'm sure they will come up with better illustrated instructions and have some of the small fitment kinks worked out, but the ability to convert this kit from DD sedate to high HP monster is what makes it appealing as well.

For me personally, having had a single, I wanted to go twins and the APS TT Tuner kit was too good a value to pass up. However, to max out at the same HP as the PL kit I would probably have to upgrade turbos to the extremes and then the cost savings is probably a push. I want to see a custom Turbonetics TT setup, the torque would be unreal .
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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by SouthernG35
I am planning on going the built block TN kit route myself. I have already ditched the TN turbo and installed a Precision SC-61. I am planning on a basic built short block, cams, 15 psi, meth injection and a 75 shot. I think 525is doable with ease.
How did the SC-61 turbo fit with the current TN set up? Did you have to do any modifications to anything?
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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Scope350
How did the SC-61 turbo fit with the current TN set up? Did you have to do any modifications to anything?
The SC-61 was a direct bolt in. My car pulls much harder up top with the SC-61 vs. the TN 60-1. I am not sure what the TN turbo is good for as far a max hp but the SC-61 is good to 700.
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