i hate rain delays

 

where are we? London?

 

<p>Jorge,</p><p>Did you report him to the mods over there? He got banned from 350z Motoring for doing the same thing.</p><p>Typical Scott Bush; doesn't want to pay to play the game.</p>

 

WOW.....this boy is everywhere

 

Mike... George hates Scott more than most.. We'll wait and see when this investigation is over.

If I am wrong, believe me, heads in Vegas will roll.

 

Mike i must warn you.. i've secured a deal with sharif that if this news doesn't come out soon.. your car won't be ready for ZdayZ.. then he rubbed his hands like Mr. Burns and said excellent.. not quite sure what that was about

 

You may need a few more than that, apparently. The fact that your "leet intel gathering skills" have made you arrive at the conclusion that I'm friends wish Scott just shows how poorly calibrated your skills really are. Dear God, man, I can't STAND Scott. Why do you think I've sat here and laughed along with this thread? Who do you think was the Admin who put down the ban hammer in the first place years ago? Who do you think RE-BANNED and went to IB with the issue when he suddenly reappeared? Wow, your radar is way off on this issue.

So, let's try this again. We've established that you believe Canadian was the one that forwarded the PM on. I'll file that under "allegation that has yet to be proven". I contend that he did not. We'll file that under "rebuttal that has yet to be proven". I'm at a strict disadvantage here of having to prove a negative, but I'm happy to try. I welcome you to pile on as much proof as you want, I'll rebut if necessary, and we'll let the jury come to their own conclusions. Sounds reasonable, yes? Should you not be able to provide such proof, however, I would suggest that you tone down your confidence in your super-sleuth skills and start preparing to eat some serious crow.

First, let's establish a timeline so we can trace this appropriately and properly assign evidence to its respective allegation. I think you'd agree this is the mature way to handle a situation where two adults are at odds over a historical issue.

You first sent your PM on what date, and to whom?

Your PM, which you felt was private, then showed up in the hands of (fill in the blank), who has stated that they received it from (fill in the blank) via (fill in the blank). We'll start there.

G

As I side note regarding the fact that this will be Post #5 in 6 years of membership: I've been a member of this board for longer than a vast majority that now grace it with their membership. Back in the day I worked with the "founding fathers" to get the rules written up and set the structure for the place. I believe I actually wrote your TOS. I have, almost since day one, respected the fact that the my350z members should have their own world that isn't constantly hounded by the G people. I have stayed at arm's length. If you want to look down on me for that, so be it, but it has been out of respect. That is something I would've hoped would have been mutual.

 

am i the oldest member in this thread? i'm feeling l33t

 

******?

Darren

 

^^

lol
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George,

It helps to have an honest insider's perspective and I guess our hope is that you will continue to shed some light on what's going on from time to time. If I came off too strong, it was because your reply relayed nothing substantive and yet it was calling out Rude for the same shortcomings.

Darren

 

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Darrrren

 

lol doug, i love that movie!

 

No worries. I'll be as honest and forthright with you guys as I can be- all I ever ask is that people respect each other and give others the opportunity to talk out issues without being shouted down.

One thing to nip in the bud right now-- Jordan (Canadian) is a very close friend of mine. I won't hide that. He's like my brother, and he became a Mod on driver because I vouched for him and know that his only intention ever was to really just help the community grow and evolve. No underlying, nefarious plots.

In August of 2003 I became a mod because someone vouched for me, and worked up to Admin by November because others did as well. That's how we get names in blue or red-- people know us and recognize our efforts and desire to give back. I don't think that just because we're good friends and he became a Mod, that there's some reason to condemn his ascent. It happened to me, it happened to everyone. We don't just materialize.

I know no one believes it, but I'll waste my typographical breath anyway: The kid didn't let Scott use his account, nor share any super-secret Mod stuff with him. Ever. I would bet a ******** on this fact. He knows I loathe Scott, and knows there would be hell to pay if it even was considered. Not to mention he's not an idiot-- we know why Scott got knocked off in the first place. He may remain friends with him, which is a point of contention in our own friendship, but that's just something I've come to deal with.

When I look him in the eye about this, he just isn't lying. He resigned because this (*pointing around the room*) was just too much drama to put everyone through on Driver. We somehow got pulled into this because people started making accusations that ultimately proved to be untrue when vetted by IB. It was too late, however, and the rumor mill was already fueled with manure and storming along. I proposed and IB agreed that his de-modding would be in the best interest of keeping the peace with those who would never listen. And so, Canadian resigned. Someone who cared had his spirit actively killed. Wee.

It should also be noted that there's a very, very tight-knit group of us in Vegas, of which many of the 350Z members are a part. We know each other personally, shake eachother's hands, and sit at Starbucks and talk about all the eDrama as it unfolds. Please refrain from telling us that we "don't know" about the people we see daily or infer that they're less-than-intelligent or honorable people. It's always sad to read, as it just plays out as ethuggery. It does provide for excellent dinner conversation, though

G

 

"Why the Fck do i want a caravan thats got no wheels" ... LMAOOOOOOO

 

yes sir.. my fav movie of all time

 

This is in response to George's post also....

I was aware that George has a problem with MrS...not exactly what ...but I know there is a problem. I was informed my a few mods on the other site.... but to be honest ....I could not reveal this because I was hoping that Canadian would come forth and put this in the open not you......Either way, the math problem has been solved.It may not have worked out as plan....but you made my point.....2-1=1......

George......True story....I had a best friend in high school that had one of the HOTTTTEST sisters I had ever seen.. This best friend was someone I would defend to the death if I had to back then...He asked me not to mess with his sister but I could not help myself....one day he saw me at the mall with his sister and asked me if I was sleeping with her.....remember he was my BEST friend.......I could not tell him the truth....Get my point

Now remember.....You and Canadain are the only 2 that know scott/vrt on a personal note....yes you have issues with him..but never the less you know him. DOnt get me wrong...let me make it clear...I never said to anyone that you were the one who did this.....never once did I say this. Even when I was getting tons of PM's on who could have done this from Mods and members.....no one ever said you.....all that was said was the only Mods to have been involved with scott/vrt were you and Canadian.


Now keep my best friends story in mind......You yourself have issues with scott/vrt......you are best friends with Canadian....but yet Canadian would risk his Mod-ship by breaking the rules and promote a subpar product...knowing that the noobs would fall for the scam just because a Mod was backing it. You think I am the only one that is watching this You better check with the big boys.


I am not saying a Mod should not back a regular member....Mods do it for me all the time.....When I put something up for sale....I get mods that are kool with me pop up and show support to me......they know it helps....and I thank them But do you think it would be smart for a Cop to have a bank robber as a friend??

YOu said you like this community.....You dont think I do....You think the Recon Unit is around for fun....This community has been burned many times....and this garbage has to stop....We are not just protecting the community from MrS......A few months ago the Recon Unit was asked for help by this female that was ripped off....The Recon Unit went into action and had the scammer banned....I am sure Eric, John, Raj , Dave and Jorge remembers that mission. Look at the community now...when was the last time you saw all shops working together??? No Shops bashing shops???....All are in this together...because all look abd when this is allowed to happen.

I have Sharif scratchng his head at what I am doing with the parts I am removing from my car.....I wont get into that.....but I do it because I love this community..... We are at War with scammers on here.....and it helps nothing when members that was given the job of representing a website turn and help the enemies that they were given the powers to keep out.


George....Like you said....you are against the friendship Canadian has with MrS.....you are a smart guy....What a person does off this website is none of our business....all we care about is what they do on here. If Canadian wants to be friends with MrS.....thats his business.....but to be a mod and come on here promoting a convicted person is just crazy....how could we respect him. His actions have cause harm/headaches to other members my using his mod name to promote a defective product from a defective person.

Someone close to MrS told me the other day that MrS is a user......and I have heard this statement many times. Lets see if Canadian will still get discounted parts from MrS now that he is not a Mod anymore.


So in closing George...as a Mod, you know how this works......I sent a PM to 2 mods......it ended up being sent to Pete@BC and scott/vrt......Pete is not a Mod...MrS is banned and not a Mod....The 2 mods that it was send to DID NOT send it to them....2 mods on here know scott/vrt personally.....One hates him...the other one does not..... IB has the power to look into the history of Pete@BC's PM's.....and also the names that scott/vrt uses to view this thread.

If the guilty one was smart.....he would have cut and paste to an email and send my PM.....but there was a slip up.


Sorry for the LONG AZZ post

 

And in case there is any confusion. If I am proven wrong, believe me, I will apologizeand seek retaliation here in Vegas.

 

Stan Stan Stan......For me to give anymore intel...I would have to give names.....not happening


I will say this.....I was told about my PM being out there before Pete posted it....I did not say anything until Pete was nice enough to post it for all to see.


Some of the Mods/Admin and members were nice enough to explain how this PM system work on the Mod/Admin level. Lets just say...I know way more than I am letting on.....too many people have helped with this...but I would like to keep other names out......


All I will say is ..Its between IB and I now.


I know you are trying to be fair......but there is more then you know Stan...

 

Ok. I'll just wait until it's all presented.