Scott Bush & Relentless Autosports: Exposing the Hype, Lies, and Failure
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OK, here's a conversation I had earlier. It isn't that long, nor does it say much else beyond what's already been said here. I won't post his username; he doesnt post here so it would kinda be a d!ckhead move of me to post his AIM handle.
And for the record, I'm not on the Recon team; he sent me a message first.
ANONYMOUS MEMBER (9:22:17 AM): i was just wondering why you all of a sudden dont like scott/ra and are joining everyone else?
JdeezyLVN: (9:23:53 AM): i'm not "joining everyone else"...nor do i not like RA
JdeezyLVN (9:24:07 AM): but it's my peace of mind.
JdeezyLVN (9:24:13 AM): i visited scott, and i think the guy's a good guy
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (9:24:19 AM): i see...its just that's what i got from some of your posts
JdeezyLVN (9:24:27 AM): likewise, i'm 100% sure he has satisfied customers
JdeezyLVN (9:24:40 AM): but in all honesty, i don't jive with what he claims
JdeezyLVN (9:24:58 AM): it has nothing to do with "posting dynos" or whatever
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (9:25:04 AM): what claims then?
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (9:25:30 AM): no one believes the JWT dyno, for reasons i have no idea. it has been proven to read just as accurate as a dynojet
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (9:25:45 AM): what other claims? i'm just curious
JdeezyLVN (9:37:50 AM): i dont think i've ever seen his dynos
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (9:39:12 AM): i have. he has probably 30 or 40 dynos at his house from VRT, his customer cards, and the double down 350z
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (9:39:38 AM): but they're all from jim wolf's dyno. again, no one believes that and yes they have been posted in the past. there is no point in posting them again if no one will believe them
JdeezyLVN (9:43:08 AM): the problem i've seen, is in what he uses, vs. what is produced
JdeezyLVN (9:44:00 AM): i'm not versed enough to know where the inflation is...i'm not FI
JdeezyLVN (9:44:09 AM): what was the tipping point for me, was the lack of a shop.
JdeezyLVN (9:44:18 AM): i visited him, with the intent of seeing his shop, and i didn't see one
JdeezyLVN (9:44:37 AM): i'm not rich, so for me to drop 20K, and leave my car with him for 2 months, and not actually seeing the shop, didn't jive with me
JdeezyLVN (9:44:53 AM): would he rip me off? I'll say no and give him the benefit of doubt
JdeezyLVN (9:45:25 AM): but i still wouldn't feel comfortable leaving him in possession of my car
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (9:46:20 AM): he has a shop, where mark does all his work. he doesn't have a lift in there, but it is a registered and insured shop
JdeezyLVN (9:49:35 AM): so why so leery to post public information?
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (9:54:22 AM): he's not. he posted the information with the xx's, but trust me the numbers are legit
JdeezyLVN (10:19:44 AM): then why so scared to post them?
JdeezyLVN (10:19:52 AM): you can find my RN info on the board, and i'll freely post it
JdeezyLVN (10:20:02 AM): its public info, and if he posted it
JdeezyLVN (10:20:09 AM): it would help repair any credibility issues he has on the forums
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:22:53 AM): its beyond that, i hope you see that
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:22:57 AM): no matter what he posts
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:22:59 AM): poeple won't care
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:23:23 AM): do you honestly think if he was as bad as people claim he is would the leader in the nissan world (Jim Wolf) be as close as he is with Scott?
244908118 (10:23:40 AM): Scott goes there everyday, walks in like he owns the place honestly. you go in and there is RA stuff all over
JdeezyLVN (10:40:13 AM): yeah, but Jim Wolf also defended VRT until VRT scammed over SCC
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:44:26 AM): im pretty sure Jim defended Scott, not VRT as a whole
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:44:44 AM): well, Jim has never defended anyone. he's not active in the community at all
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:45:55 AM): anyway, those numbers Scott made back with VRT were real. they broke the dyno they were on, as it would only go to 180mph i think it was. When they made those numbers taht is when VRT was going to do good things and before Mr. A was even in on the business. he originally started VRT as a tax write off. eventually after he lost his record company he started getting in on VRT and doing shady things
JdeezyLVN (10:56:07 AM): if he posted dynos of his other builds, it would establish consistency
JdeezyLVN (10:56:13 AM): and i'm sure most of the hating would stop
JdeezyLVN (10:56:31 AM): like it or not, the forums are a bigger source of advertiement than anything else
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10:56:40 AM): but that is what you don't understand
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:56:45 AM): no one cares for the jwt dyno
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:56:51 AM): he has posted all the jwt dynos he has
JdeezyLVN (10:56:52 AM): no, i understand that
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:56:54 AM): more than once
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:57:01 AM): he doesn't have anything else, he dosn't have access to those cars anymore
ANONYMOUS MEMBER
10:57:09 AM): so he can't get dynojets or anything
JdeezyLVN (10:57:11 AM): no, but if he dyno'd those other cars
JdeezyLVN (10:57:18 AM): he should have the records, correct?
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:57:34 AM): he does.
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:57:37 AM): on the jwt dyno
JdeezyLVN (10:57:39 AM): ok
JdeezyLVN (10:57:42 AM): post them
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:57:44 AM): he has
ANONYMOUS MEMBER
10:57:45 AM): more than onc
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:57:48 AM): everyone calls bs
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:57:54 AM): so there is no point in posting them. again
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:58:21 AM): thats what i tried to prove on ***********. he posted a jwt dyno and a dynojet, and they were very very similiar
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:58:33 AM): again everyone called bs and said LOL i can't believe you posted 3 year old dyno sheets LOLOL
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:58:37 AM): stupid **** like that
JdeezyLVN (10:58:46 AM): there's a point there
JdeezyLVN (10:59:02 AM): if he has built as many cars as everyone claims he has, then recent dynos shouldn't be hard to come by
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:59:11 AM): see but that is what you don't understand
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:59:18 AM): he doesn't have access to ANY of these cars anymore
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:59:29 AM): the double down 350z where they made most of these power claims he doesn't have access to anymore
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:59:34 AM): he id no longer even friends with the guy who owns the car
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:59:41 AM): the other VRT card is looooooong gone
ANONYMOUS MEMBER
10:59:43 AM): car*
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:59:52 AM): he hasn't had a lot of business in the last year because of all this ****
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (11:00:07 AM): the car he just finished building DID make 470ish whp on a dynojet
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (11:00:12 AM): i've seen the dyno first hand
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (11:00:29 AM): and the customer is going to get a new dyno and better tune (the 470ish one was a little rich)
244908118 (11:00:37 AM): once he gets a new tune he will post that
Me
11:13:33 AM): is this the "most controversial build" car that was just posted?
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (11:15:15 AM): yes
And for the record, I'm not on the Recon team; he sent me a message first.
ANONYMOUS MEMBER (9:22:17 AM): i was just wondering why you all of a sudden dont like scott/ra and are joining everyone else?
JdeezyLVN: (9:23:53 AM): i'm not "joining everyone else"...nor do i not like RA
JdeezyLVN (9:24:07 AM): but it's my peace of mind.
JdeezyLVN (9:24:13 AM): i visited scott, and i think the guy's a good guy
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (9:24:19 AM): i see...its just that's what i got from some of your posts
JdeezyLVN (9:24:27 AM): likewise, i'm 100% sure he has satisfied customers
JdeezyLVN (9:24:40 AM): but in all honesty, i don't jive with what he claims
JdeezyLVN (9:24:58 AM): it has nothing to do with "posting dynos" or whatever
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (9:25:04 AM): what claims then?
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (9:25:30 AM): no one believes the JWT dyno, for reasons i have no idea. it has been proven to read just as accurate as a dynojet
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (9:25:45 AM): what other claims? i'm just curious
JdeezyLVN (9:37:50 AM): i dont think i've ever seen his dynos
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (9:39:12 AM): i have. he has probably 30 or 40 dynos at his house from VRT, his customer cards, and the double down 350z
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (9:39:38 AM): but they're all from jim wolf's dyno. again, no one believes that and yes they have been posted in the past. there is no point in posting them again if no one will believe them
JdeezyLVN (9:43:08 AM): the problem i've seen, is in what he uses, vs. what is produced
JdeezyLVN (9:44:00 AM): i'm not versed enough to know where the inflation is...i'm not FI
JdeezyLVN (9:44:09 AM): what was the tipping point for me, was the lack of a shop.
JdeezyLVN (9:44:18 AM): i visited him, with the intent of seeing his shop, and i didn't see one
JdeezyLVN (9:44:37 AM): i'm not rich, so for me to drop 20K, and leave my car with him for 2 months, and not actually seeing the shop, didn't jive with me
JdeezyLVN (9:44:53 AM): would he rip me off? I'll say no and give him the benefit of doubt
JdeezyLVN (9:45:25 AM): but i still wouldn't feel comfortable leaving him in possession of my car
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (9:46:20 AM): he has a shop, where mark does all his work. he doesn't have a lift in there, but it is a registered and insured shop
JdeezyLVN (9:49:35 AM): so why so leery to post public information?
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (9:54:22 AM): he's not. he posted the information with the xx's, but trust me the numbers are legit
JdeezyLVN (10:19:44 AM): then why so scared to post them?
JdeezyLVN (10:19:52 AM): you can find my RN info on the board, and i'll freely post it
JdeezyLVN (10:20:02 AM): its public info, and if he posted it
JdeezyLVN (10:20:09 AM): it would help repair any credibility issues he has on the forums
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:22:53 AM): its beyond that, i hope you see that
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:22:57 AM): no matter what he posts
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:22:59 AM): poeple won't care
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:23:23 AM): do you honestly think if he was as bad as people claim he is would the leader in the nissan world (Jim Wolf) be as close as he is with Scott?
244908118 (10:23:40 AM): Scott goes there everyday, walks in like he owns the place honestly. you go in and there is RA stuff all over
JdeezyLVN (10:40:13 AM): yeah, but Jim Wolf also defended VRT until VRT scammed over SCC
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:44:26 AM): im pretty sure Jim defended Scott, not VRT as a whole
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:44:44 AM): well, Jim has never defended anyone. he's not active in the community at all
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:45:55 AM): anyway, those numbers Scott made back with VRT were real. they broke the dyno they were on, as it would only go to 180mph i think it was. When they made those numbers taht is when VRT was going to do good things and before Mr. A was even in on the business. he originally started VRT as a tax write off. eventually after he lost his record company he started getting in on VRT and doing shady things
JdeezyLVN (10:56:07 AM): if he posted dynos of his other builds, it would establish consistency
JdeezyLVN (10:56:13 AM): and i'm sure most of the hating would stop
JdeezyLVN (10:56:31 AM): like it or not, the forums are a bigger source of advertiement than anything else
ANONYMOUS MEMBER
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ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:56:45 AM): no one cares for the jwt dyno
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:56:51 AM): he has posted all the jwt dynos he has
JdeezyLVN (10:56:52 AM): no, i understand that
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:56:54 AM): more than once
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:57:01 AM): he doesn't have anything else, he dosn't have access to those cars anymore
ANONYMOUS MEMBER
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JdeezyLVN (10:57:11 AM): no, but if he dyno'd those other cars
JdeezyLVN (10:57:18 AM): he should have the records, correct?
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:57:34 AM): he does.
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:57:37 AM): on the jwt dyno
JdeezyLVN (10:57:39 AM): ok
JdeezyLVN (10:57:42 AM): post them
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:57:44 AM): he has
ANONYMOUS MEMBER
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ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:57:48 AM): everyone calls bs
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:57:54 AM): so there is no point in posting them. again
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:58:21 AM): thats what i tried to prove on ***********. he posted a jwt dyno and a dynojet, and they were very very similiar
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:58:33 AM): again everyone called bs and said LOL i can't believe you posted 3 year old dyno sheets LOLOL
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:58:37 AM): stupid **** like that
JdeezyLVN (10:58:46 AM): there's a point there
JdeezyLVN (10:59:02 AM): if he has built as many cars as everyone claims he has, then recent dynos shouldn't be hard to come by
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:59:11 AM): see but that is what you don't understand
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:59:18 AM): he doesn't have access to ANY of these cars anymore
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:59:29 AM): the double down 350z where they made most of these power claims he doesn't have access to anymore
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:59:34 AM): he id no longer even friends with the guy who owns the car
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:59:41 AM): the other VRT card is looooooong gone
ANONYMOUS MEMBER
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ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (10:59:52 AM): he hasn't had a lot of business in the last year because of all this ****
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (11:00:07 AM): the car he just finished building DID make 470ish whp on a dynojet
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (11:00:12 AM): i've seen the dyno first hand
ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (11:00:29 AM): and the customer is going to get a new dyno and better tune (the 470ish one was a little rich)
244908118 (11:00:37 AM): once he gets a new tune he will post that
Me
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ANONYMOUS MEMBER: (11:15:15 AM): yes
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Usingthejohn.......I bet I can tell who that is that is talking to you on line...........Thats a bunch of F-ing BS..........Tell him to show us WHERE scott/VRT/RA has proven that he can make 750-800whp using a 700BB turbo.
Even Jim Wolf himself has said its not possible.....Show me where 1+1=3....SHOW MEEEEEEEE !!!!!
Its a F@CKING LIE......On a DD Dyno...the 700BB has to fight to make 550whp...Its like saying you can drive your G/Z from California to Florida on one tank of gas when everyone else cannot...........
Nutthugging is one thing.....but falling for this crap is another. This is why this thread has grown so fast....because this BS scott is spreading needs to stop.....
POST A F@CKING DYNO OF THE CAR THAT MADE THAT POWER USING THE 700BB's. I DONT WNAT TO SEE SOME SORRY AZZ 500whp CAR THAT HE DID ON C16 GAS WHILE TELLING THE CUSTOMER ITS PUMP GAS !!!!!!! F@UCKKKKKK!!!
Even Jim Wolf himself has said its not possible.....Show me where 1+1=3....SHOW MEEEEEEEE !!!!!
Its a F@CKING LIE......On a DD Dyno...the 700BB has to fight to make 550whp...Its like saying you can drive your G/Z from California to Florida on one tank of gas when everyone else cannot...........
Nutthugging is one thing.....but falling for this crap is another. This is why this thread has grown so fast....because this BS scott is spreading needs to stop.....
POST A F@CKING DYNO OF THE CAR THAT MADE THAT POWER USING THE 700BB's. I DONT WNAT TO SEE SOME SORRY AZZ 500whp CAR THAT HE DID ON C16 GAS WHILE TELLING THE CUSTOMER ITS PUMP GAS !!!!!!! F@UCKKKKKK!!!
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Its now 4+ years and over 75 pages on this thread and still no Dyno info![Mad](https://my350z.com/forum/images/smilies/mad.gif)
All we get is the same bullsh!t over and over again from those know nothing Nutthuggers saying the same **** about scott has already shown us that he has make the 750-800 whp....I did not see it....maybe I missed it....could someone please point me to that info.
I have someone who has contacted me telling me info about Scotts days at VRT...and that he was just as elbow deep as Mr A was in the cookie jar....I have asked that person to send me proof of this and I will post it. From some of the things I was told...I am 99% sure I know who this person is...and this is one of the reasons I feel the info is true. The email address is the same address that I have recieved some info from the man himself![Frown](https://my350z.com/forum/images/smilies/frown.gif)
I have alot of info that I want to post...but its hard for me to do it unless you all prove to me who you are so that I can verify such info. Everything that I have posted so far are from members that trusted me not to expose them....Like I said...I will be happy to post when I get the info I requested. Most of you have new names....
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All we get is the same bullsh!t over and over again from those know nothing Nutthuggers saying the same **** about scott has already shown us that he has make the 750-800 whp....I did not see it....maybe I missed it....could someone please point me to that info.
I have someone who has contacted me telling me info about Scotts days at VRT...and that he was just as elbow deep as Mr A was in the cookie jar....I have asked that person to send me proof of this and I will post it. From some of the things I was told...I am 99% sure I know who this person is...and this is one of the reasons I feel the info is true. The email address is the same address that I have recieved some info from the man himself
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I have alot of info that I want to post...but its hard for me to do it unless you all prove to me who you are so that I can verify such info. Everything that I have posted so far are from members that trusted me not to expose them....Like I said...I will be happy to post when I get the info I requested. Most of you have new names....
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it doesn't say anything, it's just a 'fart sound. hahah, she just farts. that is all. and then says 'oops' Jon Stewart says 'what was that' and she says 'my shoe'.
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I love the excuse that no one will care if he posts the legit info. that is the lamest excuse. I did not join in giving him more than enough time to produce dynos and to produce the numbers people are looking for. you don't blank out numbers with XXXs and dumb ****. it's fake. that info is all supposed to be available to people.